Something has happened at Finsbury Park, London

[nakedscientist]

It seems to be another van driving into people. I live near there and have been hearing a lot of sirens. How scary and utterly depressing!

It looks closer to Welfare House than the mosque, although that is close to Finsbury Park mosque.

I just posted this on the other thread, so will repeat t here.

Do you know what I think? I think everyone should calm the fuck down, because a small number of people want to stir up hate and division, and it's hot, and people are angry and very few people are thinking straight, but it seems that social media and rabble-rousers want a fucking revolution of some description.

This is going to be a horrible Summer that will linger in memory if people do not start to be a bit more measured in their responses.

It's awful, but I don't think I'm really feeling shock at these things anymore. It's starting to seem inevitable. I guess it's also inevitable that a large scale white supremacist attack happened sooner or later. Hate feeding hate. All of them evil bastards.

I thought this thread WAS reasonably calm HairyHands. I haven't seen the other one. What kind of thing are you objecting to?

I agree, I am calm. Who needs to calm down?

I also agree with Verity and Serf.

The OP reported a breaking news story, and I actually think that other posters have largely given very sympathetic and measured responses to the news.

just murder

It's never 'just murder' it's a fucking atrocity and the daily fail idiot who wrote that is as bad as the people responsible who are doing this to create divisions in our society. I wonder if the daily fail 'journalists' (and I use that term very loosely) are happy that they come across as doing so much to further the spread of the hatred that they are playing right into the hands of Daesh and are effectively their unpaid puppets.

Social media is full of mad suppositions whenever anything happens, the last few weeks are just depressingly rife with it, it's almost as though people are secretly gleeful about the events of the last month.

So much pushing of agendas.

But ILike you are also pushing your "everyone needs to calm down!!!!" agenda, onto people who are writing perfectly measured responses.

Are you thinking of Twitter Hairy?

Why would people be secretly gleeful? That's quite an upsetting comment to make.

People have lost friends and relatives after these attacks, or they've suffered serious injuries themselves.

I've got no idea why you think people would be 'secretly gleeful', unless they support the ideals of those behind these attacks.

Also just to clarify what mentioned earlier about the location of what happened - the Guardian's now confirmed that it took place outside the Muslim Welfare House, which is around 300 metres away from Finsbury Park Mosque.

Why would people be secretly gleeful? That's quite an upsetting comment to make

Agreed.

This is all so horrible. I can't bear it. Please
Let everyone be ok.

Hairyhands - maybe you're thinking of some other media? Everyone here seems rational, measured, saddened - all normal appropriate responses.

Heartbreaking....

Sorry, I wasn't speaking about MN, I was speaking about social media in general, largely Twitter and to some extent FB.

Bloody hell

Well express your views on Twitter then HairyHands.

Plus, do you think because people are hot they go out and drive a car into people? I suggest you move away from the cider. Ridiculous posts by you.

Evening Standard reporting that eyewitnesses saw a man leap out of the van and stab a victim.

No User I suggest you re-read my posts, I'm speaking about people's reactions to events, rather than perpetrators.

And I hate cider and don't use Twitter, because it's utterly pernicious.

There were reportedly 3 in total Chloe (2 got away). Also saw that about stabbing - only source is Evening Standard. Some awful gobshites on sky news in the crowd interrupting an interview with 'THIS IS WHITE TERRORISM'. FFS. Where is the 'it's not us vs them'?

And I do think that some people are actually enjoying this on some level, not all people, and not people on this thread, but yes, there are many people of all stripes that are pissing their knickers with joy about the past month, but dressing it up as outrage.