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to think I really shouldn't have to keep asking

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idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 13:00

My OH has private medical insurance through his company. I met him 9 years ago. He was covered along with his kids. After 5 years and his daughter sneering that if I or my son got ill we wouldn't get the quality of care that she would, I asked OH if it would be possible to put myself and my son on the health insurance. He agreed and we were added to the policy.

18 months ago, I needed to have a colonoscopy. He offered for me to go privately, I declined and said I would go through the NHS. I had a horrendous experience and it had to be repeated. This time I asked OH if I could go privately and could he help me sort it out as I had no idea what the procedure was to arrange it all. He didn't help me and I had to muddle through sorting it out myself and feeling pretty stupid not knowing anything about the policy because it's through his firm and I have no paperwork at all. A few months after the procedure, I got an invoice from the hospital for around £500 this was apparently due to an excess on the policy. I asked OH why I had received it, he got angry, said I must have done something wrong but said he would deal with it and his firm would pay the bill and then claim it back from another insurance policy they have. I then got another reminder, I asked him again, he got angry with me again for causing him a problem but promised he would deal with it. 8 months later I get a final demand. This time I paid it and he said it was too late to get the money back from his firm who had another insurance policy for the excess payment. I expressed my disappointment that he hadn't dealt with it and was upset at his lack of support. I made it quite clear I didn't understand the situation and I was relying on his support - which he clearly hadn't given me.

I have recently had a sporting injury. Again, he has said "put it through the insurance" and told me that if they say there is an excess, say "that is fine and my firm will sort it". I have and again, I have received another bill. He has promised to sort it and again I have now had the second reminder. He told me to phone the hospital and insurers to ask what was going on. I did, while he was sat next to me and he gets angry that they were telling me what I had already told him. I have left the reminder sitting on the kitchen table because I really can't speak to him about it again. I think he's going to get angry with me and yet I have no idea why!

I should point out that his children have had countless procedures paid for by the insurance over the years and this evening, I am giving up a night out to go with him to a private doctors appointment. All of which, he seems to have sorted out with no problems or bills to pay at the end.

I am seriously thinking he is deliberately setting me up to fail by not giving me the correct information?!

I should point out that I never ask him for anything and I have brought up his kids day in and day out for years with not much help from him or their Mother. I don't mind and I work full time but surely when I ask for a bit of help and support, I shouldn't have to fight for it or be made to feel I have done something wrong?!

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FavouriteWasteofSlime · 13/06/2017 14:44

Marriage is the only legal protection, unless you've made some sort of cohabitation agreement or will, so yes that may apply.

I'm sure some legal person will explain.

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 14:44

He says if we separate we might as well split up.

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kaytee87 · 13/06/2017 14:45

He doesn't seem all that interested in solving any problems. Is it worth fighting for?
What percentage of the time are you happy?

Redsippycup · 13/06/2017 14:46

Can you contact his company yourself?

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 14:48

And yes, I am seeing this insurance as a bit of a last straw.

He's had a chance, messed up and I think I've watched very carefully this time to see if any of this is down to me and I'm confident it's not.

He even opened the recent bill (it was addressed to him, with my name underneath) and apologised for opening it, read it and just gave it to me to deal with.

The next bill is in my name and Ive left it on full display for him to see after he told me he would sort it out 2 weeks ago.

I know he's read it but instead of apologising he's just ignoring it and enjoying seeing me upset.

It that's how it feels!

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idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 14:50

I could speak to his company but actually I feel embarrassed to do so because I know they will say "your OH knows all this, shy isn't he telling you?"

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MrsELM21 · 13/06/2017 14:50

Probably not helpful to you OP but he sounds absolutely horrible

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 14:50

It's a small company and he speaks to the person who deals with the health insurance several times a week.

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redshoeblueshoe · 13/06/2017 14:54

I'd forget the bill. dump him he sounds dreadful.
And your solicitor is wrong. No such thing as common law rights in the UK

Redsippycup · 13/06/2017 14:56

It's not you that should be embarrassed, it's him.

Phone and talk to them, explain you have already paid one substantial excess and don't want to do it again.

If he gets shitty about it tell him you were sorting it out yourself like he wanted.

Then when that is sorted decide on the viability of the relationship.

kaytee87 · 13/06/2017 14:56

Honestly... I'd pay the bill myself and cut my losses with him. I know it's not easy though.

Buck3t · 13/06/2017 14:59

*Maybe it only applies in death then?

Like I say I was making my will and was told that my partner and his children could have a claim on my estate.*

going to stop you right there for your own protection. My aunty was with her partner for 40 years and he didn't have a will. So no amount of living together or intention to make the will (had appointment in the January 2016, he died Christmas day 2015) made any difference.

Luckily for her his brother and sister want her to have it all as they're dear brother wished (the only problem is the brother is on benefits but that's another story).

So no matter what make sure you and yours are protected.

LisaMed1 · 13/06/2017 15:02

CAB advice about rights or otherwise if you are not married here

Goingtobeawesome · 13/06/2017 15:03

Why does his child think they can disrespect you so much?

viques · 13/06/2017 15:04

As you know a colonoscopy is an investigation for potentially life devastating conditions. Clearly your results were thankfully ok, but frankly if a partner of mine was so foul about a possible diagnosis I would consider whether or not he was worth the effort. What if your diagnosis had been poor and you had a serious illness, would you feel comfortable with him caring for you and your son? Would he even be prepared to do so? judging by his reluctance to make a couple of phone calls on your behalf I think you should be asking yourself why he actually cares so little for you and why you are prepared to live with someone who shows you such contempt.

and like others have told you, you have legal rights as a co habiting partner, that is no rights to money in his bank account, house, pension, or other assets unless you are named in a very specific and up to date will. I believe that even then his children could challenge the will if they felt they had been excluded from it unfairly. Were he to be taken ill you would have no rights over any say in his treatment, were he to die your wishes for his funeral would be over ridden by his family and they would be in their rights to tell you to leave the house.

FizzyGreenWater · 13/06/2017 15:04

Firstly - the information you've been given regarding 'common law' partnership (does not exist) and assets is entirely false.

Secondly - I would tell him that you won't be accompanying him to his appointment as you're going to be busy calling his firm and chasing up the insurance for your own procedure. Oh, and after that looking into a separation.

OrlandoTheCat · 13/06/2017 15:11

I don't understand why you didn't go direct to the insurer yourself and ask for the T's & C's of the cover....

...after all, if you're a named person on the cover, this is something you could easily ask for and be readily given

VickieCherry · 13/06/2017 15:12

What you've been told about a claim after two years is absolutely not true - there is no such thing in UK law. Without a watertight will, if you're not married you may as well be strangers.

I say this as an unmarried, partnered for eleven years woman who has done her research and got the will sorted.

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 15:20

Orlando he has told me not to worry about any excesses as his company has another insurance policy which pays those.

I have no idea about the other policy or how it works. He just told me to go ahead and not worry about any excesses.

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Redsippycup · 13/06/2017 15:30

I really would ring them and ask how you claim / where to send the bill to.

ChicRock · 13/06/2017 15:30

Look, it's pretty clear (I remember your other thread/namechange fail) that your OH sees himself and his children as one 'unit' and you and your DS as completely separate to that.

He's a gobshite. And you are horribly naive.

Pay the bill, because you know he's not going to sort it.

Or don't pay it, and refuse to even acknowledge any more paperwork about it.

I don't understand why you haven't simply contacted the insurance provider and asked for a copy of the terms and conditions yourself?

And go and see a decent solicitor if you honestly believe that shite about 'common law' rights.

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 15:34

I'm going to speak to his office and find out about this second policy.

I have no idea who the insurers are of this "mysterious" second policy so can't phone them directly and have no policy number etc anyway.

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FinallyHere · 13/06/2017 15:46

From a legal point of view after two years of cohabiting you have a legal right to "marital" assets anyway - you don't need to be married. As we are both equally financially well off, it makes little difference anyway.

Sorry to keep going back to this, OP, but if you are living in the UK, this is just plain wrong.

I cannot imagine how the misunderstanding has arisen, but if you are not married, you would simply not be entitled to anything from his assets, not if you separate, not if he dies. If you own the house jointly, then you would be entitled to your half. If you had children together, you might make a case for child maintenance.

Please, get yourself informed: you might go back to the original solicitors and ask them to explain it one more time. If they say the same as before, ask them what it is based on. But they won't.

idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 15:49

To be honest I'm pleased if the outcome is that cohabiting stands for nothing. We have similar assets and in fact I suspect I have slightly more although he earns a lot more than me. So I would gain nothing from marriage anyway.

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idontaskformuch · 13/06/2017 15:50

He asked me to marry him 7 years ago - we are still engaged. My choice.

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