To not get the hysteria over the DUP?

[dingit]

Cropping up on Facebook statuses today, photos with rainbows to stand against them.
I admit until last week I knew nothing about them. A quick look at their website does not show them to be homophobic, racist etc. And surely Teresa May has bigger worries than LGBT rights? They have 10 seats!
I'm not posting to be goady, I genuinely don't get it?

Dingit people voted in this election, so suggesting they vote in the next one is a moot point.

And as for: A quick look at their website does not show them to be homophobic, racist etc. does the Tory website say "despite the Prime Minister claiming to be Christian, actually as a party we destest the poor, sick and disabled and are more than happy to make their lives a misery and drive many of them to suicide"?

I'm guessing not, even though it's true.

I don't think they are against it, they say they are for it but some member(s?) abstain when it comes to voting afair. I'm not in a SF/SDLP area , my gf is though and all the posters up for SF were very much for the equal marriage issue. She tells me SDLP are seen as wishy washy.

I hate the Tories but I have no truck with this "Tories want to euthanise the young/the poor/the disabled/ the old. "That's nonsense.
Now if you told me the DUP think similar about homosexuality/women in general/ Catholics , I might do a double take before hoping that was nonsense.

Radishal to a lot of people I'm afraid it's anything BUT nonsense.

MovingOn. No clarity required. Brexit means Brexit.

cross oh well if there were some terrorist attacks in England, then why should you give a shite about anywhere else? People have been dying in terrorist attacks in NI for YEARS and England don't seem to give a crap. It's disgusting. It's so fucking offensive to complain that you've had some terrorist attacks so you don't care about NI.

Listen, all we get on the main news is stuff about England. Then we get our little token afterthought Scottish news show. So forgive me if it's a bit galling when I'm in England and 90% of people barely know where Scotland is.

And no one thinks that the DUP are suddenly going to bring in abortion and stop gay marriage. They are worried that this semi coalition is going to destabilise the Good Friday Agreement and cast the DUP as a legitimate political party and not a bunch of lying terrorist criminals. They are worried about NI, not about England. Maybe that's hard for you to understand, that England isn't constantly at the forefront of everybody's mind.

May is a centrist Tory wet compared to Thatcher. Just saying.
DUP are still a bunch of nasty knuckle headed shits, though.

I've learnt from this that Sinn Fein aren't anti equal marriage, which I didn't know before.

I think most SF member aren't actually religious to my understanding. I understand the nationalist parties to be "Catholic" in the loosest possible sense (i.e. only some of them are actually Catholic but most come from families where the family tradition has at some time been Catholic)

We do have a few issues in England of some importance to ourselves and families, just at the moment, what with people being blown up in Manchester

For some of us, the memory of bombs in Manchester is one big reason we don't want peace in Northern Ireland to go tits-up again. Wasn't all that long ago...

I'm Catholic in the loosest possible sense but Sinn Fein will always be a bunch of murderous bastards to me. DUP likewise.

Cross, its not just will the DUP have an affect on marriage laws in mainland britain (which I agree will be limited) but what effect it will have on laws/progress in NI.

There is currently no devolved goverment in NI because DUP and Sinn Fein are digging their heels in. Under the GFA the British Government is supposed to try and broker and agreement and if that doesnt work revert to Direct Rule i.e end up being ruled from westminster. This would majorly piss off the republicans as they would defacto then be being governed by Unionists.

The best thing that I see then could happen then would be that Sinn Fien take up their seats in Westminster (against their principles) and stop that happening or they could return to armed struggle (yes I know Sinn Fien aren't the IRA...)So when you're hoping that the IRA will take the moral high ground because the British Goverment haven't then you know things are bad.

And finally it is sad that you are saying "we in England have problems"...the Westminster government governs our whole country - not England but the UK. "We" includes NI.

My was to mummyoflittledragon.

Well said seoulsurvivor except the abortion bit

Yep! They want Nigel Farage!
Handing out smelling salts and vinegar cloths to all those suffering still.

Just wiki them, its all there to read - what their beliefs are and how they started out.
I was totally ignorant of any NI parties or how their systems worked, but the internet is a wonderful tool. I do remember Ian Paisley ( the founder) as a man who always seemed to be ranting on a megaphone on the news ( i was a child in the 70s) but that is all i can recall!
There is a thread over on chat that the DUP are not Irish too, a read of that is very informative.

Radishal. "Tory wet". I had a shower this morning. I am perfectly dry. I used a monogrammed towel.

That's Gerry Adams with Panti Bliss, you might not recognise him as he's smiling.

Everyone knows you can't get Theresa May wet! It makes her circuits malfunction and she gets stuck repeating the same thing over and over.

Nicer than the photo shaking JC's hand just after the Brighton Bomb, then.

I think TM was after WD40 not DUP.

When I was a child and they were reporting on NI we weren't allowed to hear the voices of those in Sinn Fein.

Never knew why that was important - we were allowed the words but not the accent.

I don't think Ian Paisley Snr used a megaphone. I think that was just his voice? Possibly misremembering

Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah.

Nicer than the photo shaking JC's hand just after the Brighton Bomb, then.

I'm not a fan of JC but I've never understood why anyone would have a problem with talking to terrorists. The second anyone bombed me or mine, my first priority would be not having them do it again. I'd tell them the kettle was on, I had three types of cake and I'd have someone on hand willing to pop to the shops in case of special dietary requirements.

It's the implying that "people just don't care about ...." that I find really stomach churning. We do have a few issues in England of some importance to ourselves and families, just at the moment, what with people being blown up in Manchester and run over and having their throats slit in London, which might just effect people's political views. From some people's posts it's almost like we are expecting to put our own fears and hopes and political issues to one side and just think about other people's. I just don't get that, I'm afraid, I really don't.

Wow. This is so amazing I don't know where to start.

Do you know, I'm so sick of being called hysteric for daring to have a fucking opinion.