To not get the hysteria over the DUP?

[dingit]

Cropping up on Facebook statuses today, photos with rainbows to stand against them.
I admit until last week I knew nothing about them. A quick look at their website does not show them to be homophobic, racist etc. And surely Teresa May has bigger worries than LGBT rights? They have 10 seats!
I'm not posting to be goady, I genuinely don't get it?

It is a very nice place. You just shouldn't have made the mistake of using misogynist insult when asking a question about something you were totally ignorant about.

Don't start emotive threads if you don't want to be exposed to people's emotions. This is real people's lives we are discussing I live in Northern Ireland, I am a real person, this shit has consequences for women like me.

Women are criminalised in NI for trying to access abortion drugs. Gay people are denied the right to marry despite the majority supporting it. Your continued use of grinning emojis is really fucking irritating.

My view, for what its worth, is that on political issues, when a group of people start to attack and insult anyone who even dares to question a particuar view, rather than having a reasonable discussion, this invariably means the situation is more complicated and nuanced than those people want other people to realise. Hence the attempts to shame people into shutting up, rather than having the issue explored.

Those doing the personal character assassination, you do know that the cries of "you just don't care about (insert particular group)" start to lose their currency when they are used too frequently?

I have read a bit more about NI politics now. Does anyone know why people have become more extreme recently- voting for DUP & SF rather than UUP and SDLP?

Neither do I. I am a strong leader. And perfectly stable.

I get you, Crossword. But I live in mainland UK. I can marry who I want to marry and have an abortion if I choose to have one. My dd (we are Catholic) does not have to suffer creationism at school.
People get angry about part of our country not having those basic rights. It isn't some obscure group getting shafted .

How's it going, TheresaMay?

As for why did extremist politics take over when the guns, mostly, stopped. I'd say it was mutually assured destruction.
But I don't live there so I don't really know. I supported SDLP all my life as Irish descent person in U.K.

The rainbow posts are there because it's a stance against homophobia. Is does seem to be working!

And, hi, TheresaMay.

Meanwhile,back at the ranch,NIGEL rides again!They want him to negotiate brexit!

Burn DUP wise because the recent election for Stormont diluted the unionist vote with votes going to other parties (RHI scandal, people lost faith in Arelene and DUP) and SF got too close for comfort for a lot of unionist voters. They went back to DUP. SF backed a lot of their last election on the fact they are now for equal marriage so they are now seen as more progressive than SDLP.

Paraphrasing the OP:

"I have to admit I'm not very good at critical thinking or really very interested in the world around me. I had a quick Google and looked at a biased source of ifkmation and I'm still just not really getting it"

SDLP are still against equal marriage and the Shinners aren't? Jesus.

Nigel? As in Farage?

Like we and Europe haven't suffered enough.

No but if I met any of you lot in real life I'd be sorely tempted to use my knuckles grin I'm off to hide the thread now, I'd rather use other media than the rudeness that is mumsnet. It's really not a nice place at the moment.

You are the one who is rude and unpleasant, plus violent as well. Oh, and a coward.

Good afternoon.

Any Party that uses the word "repulsed" when discussing their fellow humans (Paisleys talking about gay marriage) fills me with dread for what may be to come.

What I don't understand is how they have 10 MPs. Someone must be voting for them. Why?

Some people vote along historic lines, some people agree with them some people don't vote at all because they feel there is no real representation.

I used to work with a guy who was from NI, he said to try asking the various parties their policy on things like unemployment, lots don't have policies that are mainstream in other areas of the UK.

As far as I am aware you also don't have the choice of mainstream parties and then you have MPs who don't take their seats.

Whose strong arm Theresa?

Thanks Ozzde

For sure Radishal but I never said it was an obscure group. I have been told in the last few days on here that Tory voters don't care about children, the elderly and disabled people (as we know Tory voters can not possibly be disabled or elderly). Now if we have a different view on a Tory/DUP pact we don't care about NI or gay people. It's getting a bit tired.

If people's rights are at stake, then have the conversation (although I don't actually see, given devolved powers, what difference a Tory/DUP alliance is going have on marriage laws etc).

It's the implying that "people just don't care about ...." that I find really stomach churning. We do have a few issues in England of some importance to ourselves and families, just at the moment, what with people being blown up in Manchester and run over and having their throats slit in London, which might just effect people's political views. From some people's posts it's almost like we are expecting to put our own fears and hopes and political issues to one side and just think about other people's. I just don't get that, I'm afraid, I really don't.

If you don't understand, maybe ask or do some research instead of offending people by saying they seem alright?

Obviously their we site doesn't say 'we hate gays, women and Catholics' outright.

Look Arlene, don't you have things to be getting on with? Corruption, homophobia, misogyny, jeopardising the peace process... how do you find the time to troll on here?