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To feel sorry for Theresa May

321 replies

thinkiamgoingcrazy · 12/06/2017 06:39

I think she has been an awful PM: evasive / divisive / arrogant / authoritarian / sneering / dog whistling.

I am glad that she no longer has a majority, hopefully allowing more voice to the many and diverse opinions in the oppositions as well as in the moderate wing of the Tory party.

I am also glad that we are apparently going back to government by cabinet meeting rather than by advisers (probable overstatement I know).

And yet I feel sorry for her Confused. Now a puppet at the mercy of her ruthless party.

She reminds me of Glenn Close at the end of Dangerous Liaisons.

OP posts:
Justanothersingledoutnumber · 12/06/2017 08:29

She got greedy.

If she had started cross party talks with labour and compromised on Brexit she would have been hailed as The PM who united 97% of parliment...

Instead she tried to steal seats and use her 'garenteed popularity' to slip some terrible things into her manifesto....

The whole thing backfired, i don't feel the least bit sorry for her.

OnionKnight · 12/06/2017 08:31

I don't feel sorry for her but I do wonder if the stress from being PM has affected the diabetes, my wife is type 1 and stress can really affect her.

Nettletheelf · 12/06/2017 08:33

I won't be gloating at another human being's misfortune and humiliation.

I think that poem is spiteful, too. Shame on Carol Ann Duffy. Imagine the fuss if somebody had written something similar about Ed Milliband or Nick Clegg in 2015.

NoahPinnyon · 12/06/2017 08:34

And she wanted to bring back fox hunting which shows what a heartless piece of work she is.

makeourfuture · 12/06/2017 08:37

The real questions regarding May are:

  • what exactly is she promising the DUP?
  • when she met with the Queen, did she misrepresent her position?
CiderwithBuda · 12/06/2017 08:37

I don't feel sorry for her but I am cringing for her.

I normally hate PMQ but might actually watch this week!

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/06/2017 08:38

People will look back at their time and think "what the heck were the Torys doing?!"

We had the Referendum which was done in the interests of the Cons party.

We've now had an election which was done just to serve the Cons Party.

They're despicable, arrogant twits!

AlternativeTentacle · 12/06/2017 08:41

I apologize, especially if you think I'm making a generalisation, which I'm not at all.

So generalising that women who haven't had kids can't be compassionate isn't a generalisation? How does that work exactly?

derxa · 12/06/2017 08:45

And she wanted to bring back fox hunting which shows what a heartless piece of work she is yes this was a terrible idea

BoysofMelody · 12/06/2017 08:45

Is that poem actually by Carol Anne Duffy? Usually I like her, but that is terrible

Much like Van Morrison, there are people who like Carol Ann Duffy and people who've met Carol Ann Duffy.

I have met Carol Ann Duffy.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 12/06/2017 08:46

I feel slightly sorry for her, As a person I suspect she is actually a decent hard working women however she ran a diabolical campaign.

I remember her speech outside number 10 when she promised to govern for the whole country, the just about managing etc. That was her chance to dial down the austerity, announce a programme of large scale social housing building, scrap tuition fee's on courses like nursing medicine and engineering where employers are struggling to fill positions with British graduates.

She could have countered the criticisms of police cuts by blaming it on Georges Osbourne's obsession with balancing the books. Instead she did non of that.

seoulsurvivor · 12/06/2017 08:47

boys Interestingly, I have also met Carol Ann Duffy. shrug She was perfectly pleasant to me.

Obviously, I wasn't talking about her personality, either, but her writing.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 12/06/2017 08:48

And fox hunting why in the name of god do that.
I have seen posters on her writing from personal experience saying that the so called dementia tax is actually better than things as they are now although I don't know enough about that to say either way however it was incredibly poorly explained.

Fontella · 12/06/2017 08:49

A couple of months ago I was a Theresa May fan. Yes an actual fan. I thought she was the safe pair of hands the country needed. She seemed unpretentious, down to earth, strong, self contained, diligent and hard working - all admirable qualities I thought.

But from the moment she announced the election she did everything possible to shatter my illusions. That manifesto - school meals, the fox hunting, the dementia tax ... what the hell was she thinking? It takes jaw dropping arrogance to present a manifesto like that - I can do what I like, be as punitive as I like, because I am so far ahead in the polls and so 'personally' popular that I can get away with anything.

The whole election campaign was run on presidential lines - all we saw was Theresa - everyone else was kept out of the picture with a couple of exceptions. And it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Theresa was no campaigner. She was useless. Reading from a prepared speech in a staged event she's fine - but as 'herself' she's awkward, hesitant and unable to connect with her audience. Also the briefing she was given to stick to soundbites, to keep repeating the agreed mantra 'strong and stable' became stale and repetitive very early on and even though it clearly wasn't working ... they stubbornly stuck to the script. 'They' (as we now was just her and a small cabal of equally arrogant 'advisors') blundered on, right to the end. Such was their arrogance - and you can't call it anything else.

Now the truth is coming out, I can believe it. It was clear that someone was both feeding the ego and pulling the strings. Finding out yesterday (if reports are true) that Ruth Davidson was 'summoned to Downing Street' by Fiona Hill who demanded to know why she wasn't using the 'Strong and Stable' slogan north of the border and to 'stick to the script' and make the election campaign about Theresa May and Brexit. Davidson told her to shove it apparently - thank goodness someone did.

I remain a Conservative, but I no longer have any time for May. I don't feel sorry for her in the slightest because she brought all of this on herself. I don't particularly want a leadership contest now, but there needs to be one at some point. Given the mess she has created, she is duty bound to stay in place until some sort of order is restored out of this chaos. The very 'chaos' she warned us against - she has herself created.

History will not treat her kindly. She had this election in the bag and set about doing everything possible to lose it. That the Conservatives still managed to poll 43% of the vote is a miracle in itself, quite frankly.

derxa · 12/06/2017 08:51

Fontella says it all

lessworriedaboutthecat · 12/06/2017 08:52

excellent post Fontella that completely sums up Theresa May's problems. The British public were quite prepared to vote for her and all she did was give them reasons not too.

BoysofMelody · 12/06/2017 08:53

Seoul I saw her deal with people she considered underlings at a poetry reading and reduced a young woman at the venue to the verge of tears with her unreasonable demands and obnoxious behaviour.

seoulsurvivor · 12/06/2017 08:55

boys anyway, I was talking about her poetry, not her as a person.

Peregrina · 12/06/2017 08:56

I do wonder if the stress from being PM has affected the diabetes, my wife is type 1 and stress can really affect her.

She had this before she put her name forward for PM. She could or maybe should have asked herself whether it was a wise move given her health problem. Heseltine long harboured ambitions to be PM, but I think that his heart attack finally put paid to that.

toomuchtooold · 12/06/2017 08:58

If Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person.

Hmm. Gove, Johnson, Cameron...

reawakeningambition · 12/06/2017 08:59

I vote Labour but I like Teresa May.
I slightly regret my vote because Gove and Johnson were back.

It was brave to propose a meaningful solution to the social care crisis.

reawakeningambition · 12/06/2017 08:59

Are back

DarkFloodRises · 12/06/2017 09:00

OP, I'm not a Tory voter but I feel sorry for her too.

hackmum · 12/06/2017 09:00

I'm quite good at feeling sorry for unsuitable people. I used to feel terribly sorry for George W Bush, for example, because he always looked completely out of his depth. This was entirely inappropriate on my part, becuase the man was a cynical, calculating warmonger responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. But I couldn't help it. He looked so lost.

I really find it hard to feel sorry for Theresa May, though. She lacks the requisite air of vulnerability. And there were a couple of things she did as home secretary that really turned my stomach - one of them being the time she stopped funding the boat that was rescuing refugees in the Mediterranean. How can anyone be so devoid of ordinary human compassion? It was absolutely chilling.

She has brought her current misfortune entirely on herself but seems intent on ploughing on regardless. Difficult to summon up any sympathy for her.

Slimthistime · 12/06/2017 09:00

Vanilla "Maybe Andrea Loathsome was right. If Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person."

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