To feel sorry for Theresa May

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I think she has been an awful PM: evasive / divisive / arrogant / authoritarian / sneering / dog whistling.

I am glad that she no longer has a majority, hopefully allowing more voice to the many and diverse opinions in the oppositions as well as in the moderate wing of the Tory party.

I am also glad that we are apparently going back to government by cabinet meeting rather than by advisers (probable overstatement I know).

And yet I feel sorry for her . Now a puppet at the mercy of her ruthless party.

She reminds me of Glenn Close at the end of Dangerous Liaisons.

Wow vanilla sugar - a statement as loathsome as any ever made by a politician.

I'd feel sorry for her if she showed any emotion at all and if she didn't STILL keep trotting out the 'stability' lien: no TM, this is not stability.

David Cameron phoned unseated MPs before she did : that speaks volumes.

Anyone read Carol Ann Duffy's poem? I like the 'swivelling eyes' bit.

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She's not living in a family where everyone's scraping by on minimum wage. She needs to go and soon.
She tried, she failed dismally. She is Prime Minister. It was blindly obvious that the EU referendum was not a resounding victory for Leave. The country was hopelessly divided, still is and will continue to be until she goes and someone more concialtory replaces her.

To be fair, this whole clusterfuck is even more Cameron's fault than it is may's!

YABridiculouslyU OP but am glad you kind of know that already.

Save your sympathies for those who are at the sharp end of the actions of an arrogant, complacent, patronising, ruthless, incompetent political leader of a fecking useless, power-crazed, dead-in-the-water government.

Can you tell am not a fan?

Painful to watch her humiliation? Are you having a laugh? Her breathtaking arrogance is what got her here and sums up just one of the things that's wrong with the Tories in general.

If nothing else, it proves to politicians that the electorate have a habit of not doing what they want.

The stubby pencil and a cross on a bit of paper are a powerful mechanism.

To be fair, Gordon B tried to do similar but could not get a majority hence the Con / Lib coalition a few years ago.

The UK is divided and there is a major disconnect between Westminster and the general public.

Whoever is in charge has to sort that out.

If Labour gets in, would the same people who are crowing about TMs bad decisions complain as loudly if things still go pear shaped a few years down the road?

Be careful what you wish for

TM made the call, it did not go as planned, the UK must live with that decision, it's called democracy

I asked in a previous thread why JC did not get in with his sales pitch, was it due to a divided nation ?

Piggy yes, the poem is fantastic,

I've posted it here for anyone who didn't read it.

In which her body was a question-mark

querying her lies; her mouth a ballot-box that bit the hand that fed. Her eyes? They swivelled for a jackpot win. Her heart was a stolen purse;

her rhetoric an empty vicarage, the windows smashed.

Then her feet grew sharp stilettos, awkward.

Then she had balls, believe it.

When she woke,

her nose was bloody, difficult.

The furious young

ran towards her through the fields of wheat.

I apologize, especially if you think I'm making a generalisation, which I'm not at all.

can someone explain to me the firld of wheat thing? I've clearly missed something

I apologize, especially if you think I'm making a generalisation, which I'm not at all.

Well, if you're not making a generalisation then what is it?
A dig at one woman who couldn't have children?

Pretty low.

Maybe Andrea Loathsome was right. If Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person.

What a disgusting offensive statement.

Lem she was asked on some TV programme what the naughtiest thing she'd ever done was, and she got a bit flustered and said running through a wheat field. It's an amusing watch.

I feel sorry for her too. Even though I completely agree she's made her own bed.

I think that if you are going to be a leader, you have to work with your colleagues and the Cabinet.

We don't have a Presidential system in the UK. You need to be aware of what's going on and to be in touch with real people.

If people are feeling sorry for her then she is well and truly finished.

As for me, if she had come out of Downing St on Friday and said somthing along the lines of:
'Hell I've really fucked up. I apologise to my party, I apologise to all my MPs who have lost their seats but most of all I apologise to the country for pissing away more than a hundred million pounds on this vanity election.'
Then I would feel sympathy. Instead she tried to brazen it out with that ridiculous 'business as usual' speech.
So no.

But if she did want children then I am sorry for that.

I feel a bit sorry for her. It is never pleasant witnessing someone being shown up as incompetent at their job. Even if you disagree with almost everything they've done and believe in, empathy is still there. It is not nice to hear the nastiness and gloating. It has an element of bullying about it.

Maybe Andrea Loathsome was right. If Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person.

May would have been a cruel, tunnel vissioned, opportunistic, self regarding autocrat, if she'd had one children or fifty.

Having children doesn't magically transform anyone into decent caring humans, just as remaining childfree (either by choice or circumstances) doesn't of itself rob you of a capacity for humanity.

Slightly that this needs pointing out.

And yet I feel sorry for her

I have none whatever. She is entirely the architect of her own destruction - as some voices were warning. She allowed her advisers to make her campaign presidential, with barely a whisker on election literature about being part of the Conservative party. It was all I, I, I, me, me, me. Once she had lost it was 'we must get back to work'. Always the person to blame someone else. Others have pointed out her behaviour in the Home Office, so I need not elaborate further there.

The field of wheat refers to an answer to a question about being naughty as a child and being told off for running through a field of wheat.

postagestamppat I agree. It doesn't matter how shit someone is, I hate it when people are shown up to be incompetent. It is Office-levels of cringe.

I also feel bad for her because it takes a lot for a woman to get to that level of power, and probably a lot of men are thinking 'yeah, typical, the little woman can't get it right' and she probably feels like maybe that is the case too, on some level. That feeling of internalised misogyny that a lot of us have is terrible.

May would have been a cruel, tunnel vissioned, opportunistic, self regarding autocrat, if she'd had one children or fifty. Such ridiculous hyperbole. People on here holding a woman to different standards than a man.

Ruth Davidson, Leader of the Scottish Conservatives did well.
We have a female leader of the SNP in Scotland - Nicola Sturgeon
And Plaid Cymru
And the DUP - Arlene Foster
Angela Merkel is doing very well.

Plenty of examples of women doing well on politics.

I feel sorry for her too, despite all caveats listed above. Didn't vote for her and think she is a dreadful PM. But that's almost where the sympathy comes from: she looked SO out of her depth as she walked back to number 10 and made her brittle evasive speech about staying on on Thursday morning.

Part of it is the embarrassment for her AS a woman, in the face of a frankly misogynist tabloid press.

I felt a million times more sorry for Hillary Clinton, though.

That poem is absolute shite. What utter nonsense.

'if Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person.'

Give yourself a good slap for that comment, and maybe try not to be so smug and stupid in future

I don't think she particularly wanted to hold another election but was 'advised' that she would be stupid not to take advantage of her massive lead in all the polls. So much for that advice!