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To feel sorry for Theresa May

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thinkiamgoingcrazy · 12/06/2017 06:39

I think she has been an awful PM: evasive / divisive / arrogant / authoritarian / sneering / dog whistling.

I am glad that she no longer has a majority, hopefully allowing more voice to the many and diverse opinions in the oppositions as well as in the moderate wing of the Tory party.

I am also glad that we are apparently going back to government by cabinet meeting rather than by advisers (probable overstatement I know).

And yet I feel sorry for her . Now a puppet at the mercy of her ruthless party.

She reminds me of Glenn Close at the end of Dangerous Liaisons.

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0hCrepe · 12/06/2017 08:03

I have to admit I do a bit. She hasn't even got the time to resign and lick her wounds quietly, she's got to keep going probably feeling like poo. Her huge arrogance will help with that though I guess.

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 08:03

She allowed her advisers to make her campaign presidential, with barely a whisker on election literature about being part of the Conservative party

Indeed.

A vote for me...

Then it became

A vote for me and my team..

seoulsurvivor · 12/06/2017 08:03

Is that poem actually by Carol Anne Duffy? Usually I like her, but that is terrible.

Stopandlook · 12/06/2017 08:04

I'm very sensitive to people's feelings and so it's hard not to wince when you think about how you would feel in her shoes. But politicians are cut from a different cloth.

MrsPorth · 12/06/2017 08:05

She has made terrible mistakes - calling the election, allowing her aides to behave like Rottweilers amongst other things. I don't feel sympathy because I think she's the architect of her problems rather than the victim. I do wish her well over the crucial coming months though - for the UK's sake.

DoloresTheRunawayTrain · 12/06/2017 08:05

Fuck feeling sorry for her. She put her own personal ambition and power plays above the welfare of the country and now it's all gone to shit. She had no allies whatsoever in the party as her advisors took the strange route of treating everyone within the party as an enemy. It served to alienate her from her own party, supporters and in turn the entire country.

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thinkiamgoingcrazy · 12/06/2017 08:06

But politicians are cut from a different cloth.

Pretty much what my Dad said when I told him I was feeling sorry for her. He said something about politicians having sky high levels of ambition and doing anything to be in power [paraphrasing slightly].

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DownWithThisSortaThing · 12/06/2017 08:08

No - I have no sympathy for her.
She didn't need to call a general election (in fact she stated explicitly that she wouldn't) but she did anyway out of greed and arrogance that she would walk it, increase her majority and then barely bothered to put a passionate campaign forward. The election has cost millions of pounds and caused greater instability in government when we're days away from starting Brexit negotiations. She's a terrible leader and now even her own party are questioning her poor decisions and worrying lack of judgement. She did it to herself and now we as a country have to bear the brunt of the mess she's made.

Peregrina · 12/06/2017 08:08

I don't think she particularly wanted to hold another election but was 'advised' that she would be stupid not to take advantage of her massive lead in all the polls. So much for that advice!

Who chose her advisers? Wasn't it May herself? By all accounts they were rude and obnoxious, treating people with years of service in Parliament with contempt.

surferjet · 12/06/2017 08:11

I think she's very brave to carry on after all this, a lot of people would have resigned, but she is putting the country 1st.

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 08:11

By all accounts they were rude and obnoxious

I remember hearing a Radio 4 documentary about them. I think they came with her from the Home Office.

PMQs is going to be great this week

Blimey01 · 12/06/2017 08:11

VanillaSugar

Maybe Andrea Loathsome was right. If Theresa May did actually have children, she might be a more compassionate person.

I know people with kids that don't have an ounce of compassion in their bodies. Duff statement....

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thinkiamgoingcrazy · 12/06/2017 08:13

PMQs is going to be great this week

Yes definitely .

I just wish people like Alec Salmond, Angus Robertson and Nick Clegg were still in Parliament to be part of it.

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Floisme · 12/06/2017 08:14

I don't want to hear another word from the Tory party about doing what's best for this country.

If David Cameron had been thinking of this country, he would not have called a referendum to sort out internal divisions in his own party.

If Theresa May had been thinking of this country, she would not have called an election when she had a perfectly workable majority.

And they have the brass neck to lecture us about patriotism.

Spudlet · 12/06/2017 08:15

No. She brought this on herself. She called an election when she had a majority already, knowing full well that the country was on the brink of utterly crucial negotiations, and tried to use that fact to scare people into voting for her. Now we have a minority government propped up by a handful of creationist bigots, the peace process for Northern Ireland could be at risk, and those negotiations aren't about to go away. And I suspect another election is on the cards which risks disengaging people with politics all over again. Because she decided to put her party and her personal power before her country.

No, I don't feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for all of us, who are going to have to live with whatever result this mess throws out in the end!

GlitterGlue · 12/06/2017 08:15

I don't feel sorry for her in the slightest. Actions have consequences.

Ceto · 12/06/2017 08:16

She chose advisers who, by all accounts, she knew worked by bullying people, and sat back and watched them do it. I can't feel sorry for someone like that.

I certainly can't feel sorry for someone who has worked in and headed a government that has shafted the disabled so consistently, and which blatantly intends to continue doing so if allowed.

I can't feel sorry for someone who has created a horrendous mess that puts us in an impossible position for Brexit negotiations.

I can't feel sorry for someone who has consistently lied openly and shown her contempt for the electorate. Remember the nonsense about the cat? And, most recently, her attempt to deny she was doing a U-turn on the dementia tax?

And, mainly, I can't feel sorry for someone who refuses to say sorry.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/06/2017 08:17

Yes the advisors were with TM in the home office, however the female advisor (sorry her name escapes me) had already been sacked once! A couple of years ago Cameron told TM, the advisor had to go as she kept leaking things against another minister. As soon as TM became PM she had her straight back.

Alfieisnoisy · 12/06/2017 08:20

I don't like her and I didn't vote for her Party.

But yes I feel a smidgen of sympathy for her because she is a fellow human being who is currently in a crappy situation.

She is also a Type 1 diabetic and has spoken openly about having inject up to five times a day.

This doesn't mean she cannot be PM but I do wonder if being PM has taken its toll on her diabetes. Just thinking if irregular meals, long working hours, not enough sleep, stress etc.

While I dislike her party's policies and haven't a lot of time for her there is a part of me that says "fgs woman...just bloody well resign and leave them all to it.....go and have a good long rest"

Believeitornot · 12/06/2017 08:22

On a human level I felt sorry for her - well it was more of a "imagine how she must be feeling" and not being able to cope with that idea. At least she hasn't run off and resigned like Cameron.

But fundamentally she's a high flying politician and I think it takes a certain level of narcissim to think that you are the person who can run the country and run it well.

It doesn't stop me cringing with empathy though. Like watching the X factor auditions.

Piggywaspushed · 12/06/2017 08:24

seoulsurvivor : I like the poem : it made me laugh. It's very cutting!

But, yes, it's not CAD's finest work ; I imagine she wrote it very quickly!

when you think about how you would feel in her shoes

sorry, that made me chuckle! I have never had the money (or inclination) to have her shoes...

KarmaNoMore · 12/06/2017 08:25

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NoahPinnyon · 12/06/2017 08:26

It's painful to watch May's humiliation though

It will be interesting to observe how Jeremy Corbin speaks to her at the next PMQ. He has always conducted himself with dignity in his exchanges with her and I fully expect him to continue to do so. May, on the other, has been downright rude and hostile. She refuses to answer his questions, choosing instead to hurl a stream of invective at him and make scripted, unfunny jokes at - she wrongly thinks -his expense.

Thoroughly nasty woman and if she had any integrity she would have resigned immediately.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 08:28

I quite like her shoes and I also like it that she has a serious job and is really into clothes. It's the only thing that makes me warm to her.

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 08:28

He has always conducted himself with dignity in his exchanges with her and I fully expect him to continue to do so

Me too. He knows and he doesn't need to rub it in. She has nothing to attack him with and to put him down with.

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