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To feel sorry for Theresa May

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thinkiamgoingcrazy · 12/06/2017 06:39

I think she has been an awful PM: evasive / divisive / arrogant / authoritarian / sneering / dog whistling.

I am glad that she no longer has a majority, hopefully allowing more voice to the many and diverse opinions in the oppositions as well as in the moderate wing of the Tory party.

I am also glad that we are apparently going back to government by cabinet meeting rather than by advisers (probable overstatement I know).

And yet I feel sorry for her Confused. Now a puppet at the mercy of her ruthless party.

She reminds me of Glenn Close at the end of Dangerous Liaisons.

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ExplodedCloud · 12/06/2017 17:25

Is there any evidence of these Local Authority 'power bases'?

ExplodedCloud · 12/06/2017 17:26

*without referencing the 1980s.

metspengler · 12/06/2017 17:27

Yeah, probably best they don't aspire to the May model of PMship.

She doesn't have a significantly different model of PMship to other PMs.

Going to the electorate and losing a majority has been done before I suppose, even occasionally by PMs some people quite like. :)

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 12/06/2017 17:28

She doesn't have a significantly different model of PMship to other PMs.

Oh I don't know. Her execution of her duties has been quite unique.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 17:28

I see you agree that they're being dismantled for political reasons and not to improve local services. Thank you.

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 12/06/2017 17:29

She'll certainly live long in people's memories. So that's nice.

Fab39ish · 12/06/2017 17:29

She wasted taxpayers money on a pointless election which has created turmoil at a critical time. Maybe she was ill advised or maybe she was bullied by that nasty Scottish woman!!!

metspengler · 12/06/2017 17:34

Oh I don't know. Her execution of her duties has been quite unique.

So you vaguely allude, but without you saying what you think is unique, it's hard to comment on your point.

metspengler · 12/06/2017 17:40

I see you agree that they're being dismantled for political reasons and not to improve local services. Thank you.

Well, I agree with half of that, but whether it improves public services is a whole different topic - it would be simplistic to say improvement can't be a priority if there are political reasons. Quite often people's political reasons boil down to "what they think will improve things".

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 12/06/2017 17:40

I think she's been unique in just how excruciatingly awful she's been. I've never watched a more ineptly implemented electoral campaign. She called a GE asking for a mandate for her Brexit plans, blundered her way through the past 7 weeks, failed to achieve that mandate, and now acts as though she never asked for the mandate in the first place. Woeful.

Hope that's clear enough for you Smile

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 12/06/2017 17:42

And I did laugh when someone referred to her as looking like a headmistress as drawn by Quentin Blake. Bad me. But I remember laughing harder when Cameron was described as looking like C3PO made from ham.

OohMavis · 12/06/2017 17:48

C3PO made from ham

Grin
Tanith · 12/06/2017 17:50

"Its sad that the Labour party have never had a woman leader too."

Margaret Beckett and Harriet Harman both led the Labour party, albeit briefly. Harriet Harman did so twice.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 17:50

it would be simplistic to say improvement can't be a priority if there are political reasons.
But as you say, improvement isn't the motive.

The80sweregreat · 12/06/2017 17:54

Tanith, sorry, yes. I recall Harman being very good.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 17:58

Was it just me or did anyone else wonder how the hell Arlene Phillips had ended up leading the DUP? Blush

Me4You · 12/06/2017 18:05

I feel sorry for her in the same way that I feel sorry for all prime ministers when they eventually get chewed up and spat out.

I have empathy. I don't need to save my empathy for this one and that one. I can empathise with most people who are suffering a personal struggle. Politics doesn't always come into it. She is a human being who has been humiliated and behind the scenes she must be shedding a fair few tears. She is also a woman and women are always punished harder than men for failing in public office. She has been subjected to a lot of misogyny this weekend.

metspengler · 12/06/2017 18:07

*I think she's been unique in just how excruciatingly awful she's been.

Hope that's clear enough for you*

Well not really it's all rather vague, but that's clarification of a sort. No unique model of PMship then.

But as you say, improvement isn't the motive.

No, as I just said improvement and political reasons can be one and the same motive. Extricating them really requires that we know things we don't - like eg does someone think a constructive pulling out of the dead wood will ultimately improve public services, or are they one of that pantomime-universe species of law abiding human being that wakes up every morning wanting to do what they believe is the wrong thing.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 18:09

Very revealing choice of language. Thank you again.

squoosh · 12/06/2017 18:15

Well not really it's all rather vague, but that's clarification of a sort. No unique model of PMship then.

Unique to me them oh peevish one.

Topseyt · 12/06/2017 18:21

I have no sympathy for her at all, and during the election campaign she went seriously down in my estimation, not that I was ever really a fan in the first place.

I will concede though, that I really wouldn't want to be her right now.

All self inflicted.

Floisme · 12/06/2017 18:23

Well it sounds as if the 1922 committee has been beautifully stage managed, just as her departure will be.

I do genuinely admire them for the way they handle this kind of thing. Whatever I think of their politics, they're one hell of a team.

Mrsmadevans · 12/06/2017 18:30

I do feel sorry for her OP. I feel sorry for her because she has not had the wonderful pleasure of having children and I feel sorry for her because she has been totally humiliated . I think good has come from the election because it has shut Nicola Sturgeon up and given everyone a break from her whining. Also she did actually win the damn election a fact many corbynistas seem to forget!

The80sweregreat · 12/06/2017 18:30

They are about the party, Floisme. You do have to admire the spin.
I bet it wasnt anywhere as sweet as they made out.
Tories do Disney rather well at times. I almost believe it myself at times.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 12/06/2017 18:32

Because She has not had the wonderful pleasure of having children?!

Biscuit