To ask those who voted Conservative if they are happy now?

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It seems to me that the current Government has asked a bit too much of their voters. I'm just wondering if those who voted Conservative if they are happy with the current outcome of the election.

To be fair on the fox hunting point. She didn't use it in her campaign. She was pushed and answered honestly. It would be a free vote that would never get through. And they have been saying they would for years, and never have because there have been mildly more important issues to deal with. It was a red herring thrown in deliberately to stop people voting Tory.

I can't deny that the Tories cocked this up. It's the most frustrating thing of all.

"Let us not forget that many people here were up in arms because 'No one voted for her as prime minister'."

Well exactly: and given the chance to actually vote for her to be PM many didn't!.

Agree User. All it needed was a positive campaign from the Tory party. So frustrating

Labour promised the moon on a stick and still couldn't get a majority. I think they need to ask themselves some questions. Conservatives IMO couldn't have played it worse, some awful policies and press, some u-turns. Labour did everything right and still couldn't win. Why?

I'm just confused though why people think the DUPs involvement will mean a softer Brexit. The DUP have long campaigned to leave the EU! Just really curious that I've missed something here

If there is to be a free vote on fox hunting in England I hope all the Scots MPs have the manners to abstain.

Maybe the conservatives didn't bother with a well organised campaign because they didn't think they'd need one, given what the polls said when the election was called ... which as things turned out was a massive error of judgement

As I've said before, they'd have done better to call a three week campaign instead of dragging it out for seven

I agree puzzled. The campaign smacked of complacency

Cowparsley. Your right, not enough people would ever vote for JC because the majority of people who can remember a time when the unions could bring the country down )prob the last time was the miners strike in the 80s) would never vote to give them more power. We can remember just how great the nationalised services were (😳). I highly suspect he won't last to the next general election. People don't trust him or his team. That's why labour still got about 20%fewee seats than the Tories despite running one of the most effective campaigns I can remember vs one of the worst. They only way the Tories could have fucked up more would had been to kill puppies. If we stripped out the student vote who were voting to get £40k he would have been even more fucked. God knows how he can see this as positive.

I'm a Labour voter and I am thrilled. Not because Corbyn 'won' (he didn't).

Because the Tories got us into the Brexit mess and they need to get us through it. I don't see why anyone else should be blamed for the mess Brexit is going to get this country into. And it will be a mess. Tories need to take full responsibility and if anyone else had negotiated Brexit it would have become their 'fault'.

Am presuming not all the posts on here are actually from people who voted Tory.Someone moaning on a similar post yesterday, saying TM didnt take the views of the 48% who voted remain, er, well, it was because 52% voted leave! Am not happy, the 3 parties will just agrue amongst themselves. I blame DC for chickening out after the brexit vote, he should have stayed in office and finnish out his term. JC making unatainable promises, thinks hes Robin Hood, going to steel from the rich and give to the poor! Seems weird to me you have to have such a huge magority of seats to win an election, a magority of 1 should be enough!

Apologies for the awful spelling, migrane! Having a job seeing.

Sorry to come back to this thread late. I fell asleep last night, crawled into bed and have just got up, had breakfast and logged on. It's been an exhausting week for me, obviously!

Some very interesting responses on here, admit I haven't read them all. I suppose you have to make do with the result the best you can, sort of austerity in acceptance, which is ironic really.

Thank you all for your input to the thread.

Maybe the conservatives didn't bother with a well organised campaign because they didn't think they'd need one, given what the polls said when the election was called ... which as things turned out was a massive error of judgement

Same as the Remain campaign, got lazy because they thought they had it in the bag. You'd think they would have learnt some lessons from that but seemingly not

The Conservatives ran a weak campaign; May made herself look particularly weak with her apparent u turn over a major policy. How does that make her look to the EU Brexit negotiators? I doubt they see her as strong and stable.

I foresee either a leadership challenge or/and another GE sooner rather than later

The DUP did campaign to leave the EU (there is a question over the funding) but they specified a soft approach to Brexit.

"Keep the tories out! Keep the tories out, here is how to vote to keep the tories out"

hung parliament and DUP support

Are the labour supporters happy now? Would you have preferred just the tories? The worst campaign by a party in power in living memory and Corbyn can only get a hung parliament....

I did vote Tory because I think a tough starting point in the negotiations is what is needed. Soft touch Cameron came back with nothing remember.

I voted Brexit because I used to work overseas and saw daily how savvy us Brits were in working and heading up companies overseas. I used to hire expats from everywhere and it was the Brits that stood out head and shoulders. We had masses of potential to be a great country again if we got Brexit right. We were in a good bargaining position.

Now we have fucked it all up. Seriously, we have. We are now in a very poor bargaining position. The EU wouldn't move on the piddly 5 things we asked for by Cameron, they certainly won't give a PM with no public confidence anything. They have us by the cojones.

If we have a second referendum I won't bother to vote because the British people are too divided to make Brexit successful and will make a hash of it. I think we should actually now just drop the idea.

I'm perfectly happy with the concept of grammar schools - went to one myself, sent the DC to another - but I was aghast when she brought it up. Faffing around recreating grammar schools, given the condition that the rest of state education is in at the present time, is totally in Titanic deckchair reassignment territory. Can we ensure the lifeboats are in good working order first, please?

Re Brexit, I have a relative who is far from the EU's greatest fan but who voted Remain on the grounds that, as someone posted earlier, there is no-one currently in power who could be trusted to negotiate an advantageous withdrawal. She also, as a lifelong Conservative, held her nose and voted Labour this time, because there is stuff a strong Tory government would be able to force through that she wouldn't be happy about at all. She didn't want (or expect) a Labour government, mind you, but is relieved that there is now a stronger Opposition to keep the buggers from rushing headlong to the extreme Right. Consensus politics isn't something we seem to do much in the UK but it's not all bad, you know. A strong firm hand on the tiller and full speed ahead isn't always the best strategy. You need to avoid the rocks, not just blame whatever fool put them there in the first place. (Hmm, a bit heavy on the nautical metaphors today. Must be summer.)

Someone upthread asked how do those who voted Labour feel? I'm very happy. New ideas, new sense of purpose, new hope. I liked Corbyn's approach to politics long before there was a General Election.

After a few years of voting for the Lib Dems for tactical purposes this time I decided to vote Labour. Corbyn was talking about policies that were distinctively different from the political elite that we've had since 1979. May is determined to reduce the public sector even further, 35% of GDP, so there was more grief to come.

Corbyn, being a leftie, has been negotiating all his political life (of necessity) and I think his style will go down better in Brussels than someone, foolishly declaring beforehand they're going to be bloody difficult.

Tories were trashing Corbyn yet he didn't retaliate. Crosby put May in a giant shed with a few selected supporters, he was outside, engaging.

Labour promised a moon on a stick.

No they didn't, their manifesto was costed, the Tories wasn't. There is a magic money tree, since 2009 the Bank of England has grown £453,000,000,000 of it but decided to give it to the bankers not nurses.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/06/magic-money-tree-theresa-may-banks-nurses

Also, note the line in that link about wanting the day when schools have everything they need and we need a bake-sale to buy a bomber.

Oh, the Mail, Sun etc., got their comeuppance - wonderful!

To warriors the only people that properly campaigned in the remain campaign were Cameron, Clegg and Osborne. No much evidence of Labour making an effort; probably because they didn't want to be seen to be associated with the Tories. So I blame Labour for Brexit as much as I do Cameron for calling the bloody referendum in the first place.

This has been a great thread to read. As I said upthread, as a semi-insider, I felt right from the beginning that there was going to be a problem. Am off out to buy the Times today - apparently there is a good article by Katy Perry, TM's advisor who resigned when the election was called.

Good post from WarriorsDance

Cameron and May have delivered a double whammy with the Referendum and GE, neither of which was actually necessary. Political gamesmanship in both cases that went horribly awry. I blame them not the voters for any shit we've landed in

This.

Annie I too have Conservative voting friends - one describes herself as a died in the wool Tory blue. They also voted to remain but accepted the 'will of the people' begrudgingly. They are happier now that there isn't going to be a hard Brexit, that's for sure. Disappointed obviously, but can see the benefits.

It's an absolute shambles, and not good for anyone in this country. I'm not a Tory voter, but this is disappointing for labour and us all really. In all honesty the people of this country would do well to stop squabbling with each other and work out a feasible plan for Brexit using all the most experienced brains around; regardless of their politics. We simply can't keep on like this, or we really will be out on our arses with no one to trade with. What a farce. I am absolutely angry that the reprehensible gamble that Cameron originally took has turned into this chaos.

So the Conservatives got 20% more seat for 2.4% more voted. Shows how screwed up this system is.