To ask those who voted Conservative if they are happy now?

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It seems to me that the current Government has asked a bit too much of their voters. I'm just wondering if those who voted Conservative if they are happy with the current outcome of the election.

For me it was the best possible outcome that I could have reasonably wished for. This wasn't just about Brexit, had the Conservatives won a majority this would be the government for the next 5 years. I wanted to derail the path they were forging ahead with which would have destroyed public services irreversibly. I also wanted a much softer Brexit than TM had decided to follow.

Today 20:36 YogiYoni

Not a particularly impressive achievement in my eyes, all it's done is derailed a 'smooth' brexit, meaning we are somewhat at the will of the DUP and will most likely have to amend policies and brexit plans

Good!!!! TM wanted a mandate for a hard brexit. She didn't get it. Good. She wanted a mandate to continue pushing through huge cuts to health and education. Didn't get it. Good. She's going to have to talk to other parties to get agreement now. Good. I am delighted with this result.

So am I. But she's a lame duck and oh boy it hurts. Serves her right, the appalling woman.

"I think it was the social care thing which worried people. I am going to chat to my MP and try to clarify it."

The only good thing about the election result, is that the manifesto will be null and void. She can quietly forget it. No-one will try and hold her to it anyway.

Sending Amber Rudd to debate in her stead, 2 days after her father had died. W....T....F....

I know Dogstrummer. Simply disgraceful.

I'd be interested to know if the people who voted labour with the sole aim of getting a hung parliament or similar are happy?

In the most uncertain of times for us this has forced an alliance with the DUP which is not ideal in anyone's eyes.

Not a particularly impressive achievement in my eyes, all it's done is derailed a 'smooth' brexit, meaning we are somewhat at the will of the DUP and will most likely have to amend policies and brexit plans

I didn't vote for a hung parliament but I'm absolutely OK with it, although DUP obviously not ideal.

The Tories were seeking a bigger majority to pass whatever Brexit they wanted. I have felt like TM totally ignored that the country was split by the referendum and made no attempt to bring the 48% with her.

I worried a bigger majority would be a mandate to do whatever they wanted: to the NHS, to our relationship with Europe, there was even talk about fox hunting for goodness sake.

So I didn't want them to have a bigger majority. The problem is if anyone else went forward with Brexit, Brexit supporters would be saying that they have deliberately sabotaged it, when in actual fact, it's going to be very difficult to get a 'good deal'. The Tories need to own that.

So in that case, a hung parliament is not a bad result, particularly if there are increased checks and balances needed for terms to be agreed.

Btw, you mentioned that a smooth Brexit has been derailed and we'll need to change plans. I don't think we were heading for a smooth Brexit and I haven't heard any plans. TM started the clock and chose to have an election rather than get to the table.

Tbh, anyone who willingly teams up with the Dup is a dick.

"there was even talk about fox hunting for goodness sake. "

It's things like this that leave me fizzing with anger!

There was just no need. The whole campaign seemed designed to lose the election.

She had one task - to deliver as good a Brexit as possible. That's what she should have been focussing on 100%.

I don't think she is competent to continue with Brexit negotiations. The Tory party need to settle on a leader behind closed doors. Single candidate, and crown them PDQ. The Tories need to show the electorate they take what's happened here seriously, so I would not put Boris in the chair. David Davis would be my pick.

The Grammar School thing was the first thing to get my goat. Bloody grammar schools. I was so cross about that.

David Davis doesn't want to do it apparently. Don't know if this is true or not.

No I'm not happy.

We lost our, extremely competent and successful conservative MP, no majority and now the DUP.

I was hoping for a Tory majority, not a landslide, with a decent opposition.

The social care reforms were essential and a gamble. They have backfired. It's a shame because it appears to be a policy which might really make a difference to the NHS/social care going forward.

But it put off Tory voters (as it would. It's practically out of labours playbook, the rich paying more for public services). We are now in no mans land and we look weak for Brexit negotiations.

The worst thing is that for everyone voting labour, you won't get a single damn policy, but we will have to pander to the DUP because all the other parties want to oust May rather than use their influence for a slightly softer Brexit(which is what most parties want anyway).

So a rubbish coalition, for the most important negotiations which will impact our economy, and therefore the NHS and our schools etc for decades to come... and Jeremy Corbin treats it like a victory.

The result just screwed every last one of us, regardless of who you voted for.

The result just screwed every last one of us, regardless of who you voted for.

This.

What a strange question OP!

not strange at all, perfectly valid. I was glad to see it posted as I have been wondering this myself. I do find though that some posters on MN just love dismissing threads or opinions as "odd" and "strange" when they're anything but. It's a rather nasty way of undermining a question or opinion they don't like.

The social care reforms were essential and a gamble. They have backfired. It's a shame because it appears to be a policy which might really make a difference to the NHS/social care going forward

In what way? Serious question.

Providing money for care so that the state doesn't have to pay and old people don't bed block. Money paid back from the sale of the house when the elderly person is no more.

I would lose a large potential inheritance, but it did seem broadly reasonable, in principle. She shouldn't have backtracked.

And grammar schools and hunting were red herrings--irrelevant and distracting.

Don't blame Labour voters, labour didn't call this election and if it details a smooth brexit then tough - risk she took. Didn't pay off.

No I'm not happy but I wasn't hoping for a hung parliament. I'm annoyed with TM for not resigning to be honest and getting into bed with the DUP. Are the people who voted Labour/Lib Dem just to oust the Tories happy? It's a stupid question really OP. It's not our fault and we weren't wrong to vote Tory. That's not how it works. There's not a right side and wrong side.

Stripyhoglets
Don't blame Labour voters, labour didn't call this election and if it details a smooth brexit then tough - risk she took. Didn't pay off.

Exactly. Conservatives didn't need to increase their number of seats, their had enough. This was their choosing. I think now complaining that people have expressed their democratic right to chose a party / candidate that is right for them is a bit rich.

Abra1d
And grammar schools and hunting were red herrings--irrelevant and distracting.

To me it wasn't a red herring, it was a sign that the population and their votes were taken for granted.

Agree with sunnie and abra about social care. I actually welcomed the proposals and it would have helped the NHS no end. But people don't want to face the reality of care funding being unaffordable, they think they have "already paid" and there were inbuilt unfairnesses which the manifesto did nothing to address. So ultimately it was a(nother) bad call by TM, especially as it's mainly the grey vote that gets them elected.

I am pro-grammar schools (I went to one and live in a different grammar area - they are hugely popular here). Foxes - I don't hunt but I don't give a flying fuck if people want to. I am more worried about Brexit, the economy, jihadism and misogyny creeping back into public life to name but a few! It was a very middle England Tory manifesto but they need broader appeal to get elected as the result proves.

Just say "NO!" to the Tory/DUP Coalition.

I disagree with those who say TM was thinking of party over country when she called the Election. At that point virtually everyone assumed she would get a larger majority which would enable her to have a stronger hand during Brexit negotiations, which from the perspective of those wanting to leave the EU was definitely in the national interest.

The fatal problem was the campaign that followed it... TM aloofness by refusing to properly engage, a dreadful manifesto and floundering u-turns made it a textbook poor campaign. It has utterly ruined TM's credibility and it's a disaster for the country.

The conservatives had enough seats, I am really also tired of seeing people blaming the electorate for voting in a snap election, after the Tories gave a shoddy election campaign.
It's TM you should be angry with and not labour voters.

Yes I am happy that hard brexit and some of the horrible manifestos are derailed and she will have no choice but to move away from the right to the centre. That is seemingly what a lot of people want.

We are in a time of great uncertainty with brexit, everyone took a gamble on a proposal that had no plan and no strategy. It is not surprising that people then panicked at what a hard exit could do to the UK, and have spoken up against it with their voting.

It is not that people want a 2nd referendum - even labour remainders are not calling for that. But we do not trust TM to get us through negotiations with a good deal.

I voted Tory as a last minute decision because he's worked quite hard for the constituency and the alternative in our area was an untested lib dem. Labour don't stand a chance here or I'd have probably voted for them - I like Corbyn.

I'm not going to lose sleep over the DUP. I don't think it will change much.

Are any of us really 'happy' about the way things are in British or EU politics?

He's - our MP I mean.

How can anyone be happy about a coalition with homophobic, anti abortion climate change deniers?

Anyone watching the handmaidens take on C4 (or read it?)....?

People with beliefs such as the DUP have no place in a developed country's government. Maybe in some god forsaken religious hell hole with zero intellegance and humanity.... but not Westminster. The idea that those cretins will have any influence over Wngland is horrific.

Wingland. England.

I'd rather UKIP than DUP. At least UKIP were just racist rather than nut jobs.

I just feel like we needed a strong government with a workable majority in order to negotiate Brexit. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the ones on offer were up to the task really. What we're left with is complete mess that the EU could take advantage of.

It absolutely amazes me that people didn't consider the matter of leadership before voting for Brexit. What did you think would happen? Which particular visionary did you think had the capability to lead us through the most complex negotiations this country has ever seen? Such an enormous consitutional change needed someone with good communication skills, vision, empathy, strong-nerves, negotiating experience and intelligence. Did any individual or team fit that bill? No. We had buffoons, incompetents and liars and are now reaping what was sown.