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To ask those who voted Conservative if they are happy now?

189 replies

Elendon · 09/06/2017 20:07

It seems to me that the current Government has asked a bit too much of their voters. I'm just wondering if those who voted Conservative if they are happy with the current outcome of the election.

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Kokusai · 10/06/2017 08:08

this has forced an alliance with the DUP which is not ideal in anyone's eyes

No allowance with DUP is forced.

The conse active government could say "hey, the DUO does not hold the same values as we do" and attempt to form a different coalition.

But no. The conservative government fucking loves the homophobic anti woman anti science anti progress dark ages religious nut jobs.

Andrewofgg · 10/06/2017 08:11

Abortion and same-sex marriage in NI are matters for the Assembly and the fact that the DUP (along, I think, with many of Sinn Fein's voters, especially on abortion!) are against both is not significant in Westminster.

We have the party in government with more votes and more seats than any other, in alliance with a party which wants to preserve this country; instead of a party with fewer of both which would have to get into bed with parties in Scotland and Wales which want to destroy it. It's not ideal but "we are where we are" and it's obvious which is the more democratic outcome.

makeourfuture · 10/06/2017 08:13

Nobody voted for the Tory/DUP Coalition.

Andrewofgg · 10/06/2017 08:16

Nobody voted for a Labour./SNP/Plaid/LD/ coalition: in fact if you voted for any of those parties you voted against one or more of the others.

Whereas if you voted Conservative you didn't vote against the DUP and vice versa.

ginsparkles · 10/06/2017 08:17

I'm happy to still have a Tory government, that it wasn't a labour win. I am not happy about the DUP but doubt it will be as bad as some people are suggesting it will be.

Mostly I'm cross at the appalling campaign. I can understand why she had the election, I think she was right to do so. But I am angry they threw away what was a great opportunity by running such a pitiful campaign. She was out campaigned by labour and JC.

WarriorsDance · 10/06/2017 08:19

I didn't vote Conservative but I doubt anyone who did would be happy with the result.

UKIP lost votes because a lot of their supporters voted tactically and switched to Tory. They wanted the ensure Brexit, preferably hard Brexit which they probably won't get now so they won't be happy either.

Cameron and May have delivered a double whammy with the Referendum and GE, neither of which was actually necessary. Political gamesmanship in both cases that went horribly awry. I blame them not the voters for any shit we've landed in.

PookieDo · 10/06/2017 08:20

No they didn't and no one knew that DUP were going to be the choice of TM in the event of a hung parliament.

This is exactly why so many people wanted to remain - because we don't have the stability to guide us through Brexit or the leader. The fact is now all the government can really do is to make the 'best of a bad situation' but it's not sustainable long term and too many people are unhappy.
We will have to vote again, I expect later on this year.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2017 08:20

people don't want to face the reality of care funding being unaffordable

I completely agree with this - even as an old gimmer myself, I've been appalled to hear the remarks of too many selfish seniors who just can't accept the need to spend some of their money on care

How the heck have folk become infantalised to the point where they can't recognise a sensible and necessary proposal when they see it, but instead think that the state must provide everything? Hmm

Scabetty · 10/06/2017 08:20

I voted Labour for my MP who retained his seat. Completely happy.

user1495961005 · 10/06/2017 08:21

I voted Tory and no I'm not happy. I wanted hard Brexit. We needed stability now more than ever. Yes we won, but at a price. I'm angry at the prospect of TM being ousted. I'm angry that we had to get the DUP on board. I'm angry at Corbyn for bribing students. I'm angry at the Ukippers that unfathomably jumped ship to Labour. I'm angry at people in general for voting Labour.

People are stupid. What can I say? We'll discover just how stupid in around 20 years time.

Scabetty · 10/06/2017 08:22

Oh an the outcome will provide a softer Brexit which seems mmore sensible

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/06/2017 08:22

Of course they aren't happy. They lost on the night and have potentially plunged us all into chaos. TM has made us a laughing stock and shot herself in the foot.

What right thinking person wants to cosy up to misogynists and homophobes?

Scabetty · 10/06/2017 08:23

Do fuck off 🙄

Scabetty · 10/06/2017 08:23

That was to user xxxxx

TomHardysWhore · 10/06/2017 08:24

So VERY concerning Confused

www.the-pool.com/news-views/politics/2017/23/siobhan-fenton-on-dup-conservatives

user1495961005 · 10/06/2017 08:24

Oh, and of course I reserve most of my anger for the completely useless campaign that the Tories ran. Fox hunting for instance. Only a tiny minority would like to see that brought back. Boggles the mind.

PookieDo · 10/06/2017 08:25

I think saying people are happy with this situation implies they don't care about the DUP being absolute nutters.
They do.
People are not exactly happy, this is the wrong word, but they feel more satisfied with the outcome currently vs prior to the election in terms of what this means for brexit and the manifestos they do not agree with.

As I said, no one expects (surely they don't) for this to actually work, so perhaps most people assume this is yet another ill thought out plan that has no legs and will fail pretty quickly. I'm not sure people are taking it seriously that we now have Con-DUP for 5 years. It will not last

Scabetty · 10/06/2017 08:25

Realistically how much influence will the DUP have?

VanillaSugar · 10/06/2017 08:25

Wow user you sound a bit angry. Are you OK, hun?

Parker231 · 10/06/2017 08:26

The election has shown how weak May is and how she can't/ won't engage with the public and doesn't appear to understand the issues. She is going to be useless in Brexit talks.

VanillaSugar · 10/06/2017 08:27

So, if TM actually won the election, does this mean that fox hunting is going to become legalised?

user1495961005 · 10/06/2017 08:28

Vanilla, yes I am angry. But I'll get over it eventually.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2017 08:28

Nobody voted for the Tory/DUP Coalition

Perhaps it's just as well, then, that a formal coalition isn't what we've got ...

PookieDo · 10/06/2017 08:29

Stop blaming voters FGS, they aren't stupid. They voted on what they wanted. I could call YOU stupid for your views, how would you like that?

Just because you don't agree with people's views doesn't make them all stupid and ignorant. I for one feel really strongly about this as you do, read and researched what I could and voted what I felt was best for the country. So please don't call me stupid because you don't like the outcome.

This is their fault for dropping the ball - they had it in the palm of their hand and they took it for granted. Blaming the electorate is grim. It just causes further divides and vindicates your party for their own mistakes

Maxandrubyrubyandmax · 10/06/2017 08:29

My great Tory MP was returned so I'm happy (v safe seat though i.e. He got more votes than the next two candidates together I think). But I thought the Tory campaign was poor not tge policies just how TM presented them. Conversely I thought the labour plans were poorly costed and some economically damaging and presented v well. I was pleased with the large turn out from young people (although this obviously led to the hung parliament). Not pleased with the fact JC will see this as legitimising his rule and not bugger off. 50:50 about the DUP. To recognise any of the main NI parties is recognising people who at some point had a connection with terrorists. But that needs to be left in the past I guess now. Religion is v important in NI so it's natural any party will reflect the religious beliefs it is a democracy so up to people in NI who they vote for. On the plus side as the only part of the uk with a land boarder with the EU it is probably a good thing the DUP should have more of a say in the Brexit negotiations. They have a different,softer view on some welfare measures so on reflection might be a good thing. One thing is for sure, this is not a victory for JCs ideals and I suspect he will go back to being a very poor opposition leader again