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To ask those who voted Conservative if they are happy now?

189 replies

Elendon · 09/06/2017 20:07

It seems to me that the current Government has asked a bit too much of their voters. I'm just wondering if those who voted Conservative if they are happy with the current outcome of the election.

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Bohemond · 09/06/2017 21:09

I think she called the election for the right reasons but the campaign was terrible. From the inside I know that they were not ready and then there were some serious miscalculations on the style and content of the campaign and the manifesto. You cannot opt for a presidential style election when your candidate is anything but. That said, I think she is the best person to lead us right now.

TheFallenMadonna · 09/06/2017 21:09

You don't have any concerns about her judgement?

Cheepandorm · 09/06/2017 21:10

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SidesofFeet · 09/06/2017 21:10

I'm happy that my vote helped the Conservatives take seats from the SNP. Would have been better if the Conservatives had won a majority but I'm not sure how much harm 10 DUP can do and aren't they essentially Conservatives anyway.

TeddyIsaHe · 09/06/2017 21:11

How anyone could proudly vote for Conservatives after this I'll never know. I understand why they're doing it, but an agreement with DUP? Their awful stance on women's rights, LGBT rights.... it's hideous.

Jng1 · 09/06/2017 21:14

Happy my local Tory MP was returned to his (safe) seat
Happy that Scottish Conservatives unseated 12 SNP sets and that IndyRef2 is shelved
Very happy Corbyn didn't win
But obviously a bit meh about the lack of a Conservative majority

This election was really hard for me though, because I'm a remainer and I don't want any sort of Brexit. However I'm not sure a 'soft Brexit' is really possible - Europe hold all the cards and I can just imagine them playing the 'if you're not in the club then you don't get the benefits' angle.

The thing I'm least happy about though is just how VILE people seem to have become and how it universally seems to have become OK to publicly insult and abuse each other. So-called (former?) friends of mine who I've previously respected seem to have let rip with the most unpleasant, ugly and offensive personal attacks I've ever seen in a way I would never dream of doing publicly. These aren't angry oiks either - they're teachers and church workers and professional people.

It's very sad and I DO blame Corbyn and the Momentum movement for some of this.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/06/2017 21:14

What I'd have really liked is a decent but not excessive majority (say around 50) and a strong, properly run opposition, hopefully to provide sensible direction but without extremism

Since we don't have either of those things, my main cause for happiness is that at least the nightmare of Corbyn as PM hasn't happened

SquidgeyMidgey · 09/06/2017 21:15

We need one of those #notinmyname type rallies. Wtaf barely covers it.

Bobbybobbins · 09/06/2017 21:15

I read today that John Major refused a coalition with the DUP and ran a minority government instead so the situation in NI was not destabilised. Very interesting. Possibly shows May is more interested in ruling than anything else. Though obviously the situation in NI is completely different now.

Thiscantreallybehappening · 09/06/2017 21:16

I am happy that my MP got re-elected but I always thought having an election at this time was a bad idea.

I would have obviously been happy with an overall majority. I am not overly optimistic for the arrangement we have now and there seems to be a general feeling that we could have another GE before the end of the year.

I hope the Conservatives are already working on their manifesto just in case.

DogStrummer · 09/06/2017 21:16

"TM took gamble thinking she would retain the majority"

Not a gamble in my opinion. It was the biggest open goal in history. Many generational labour voters wouldn't support Corbyn, opinion on Brexit had shifted to "Leave", and people wanted a strong government going into Brexit negotiations.

Theresa May has demonstrated the most stunning incompetence in the history of Tory Prime Ministers.

  • She allowed a manifesto to be put together by 3 people, and did not run it past her cabinet;
  • It was the worst Tory manifesto in living memory. Not just the dementia tax, the whole document stank;
  • The campaign was run in the most shambolic way possible. When the manifesto was released, no-one was available to spin its contents (or simply couldn't);
  • Tory "Big beasts" were kept hidden away.
  • The Tory core vote not only felt targeted by the manifesto, they were insulted to boot. I certainly felt that TM was taking the piss.
  • TM's shyness was a huge problem. It makes sense now, why those communication agents resigned when the election was called. They knew something we didn't at that point.

This Tory election campaign will be used as a case study in years to come.

Andrewofgg · 09/06/2017 21:17

Happier with DUP bending the ear of this PM than with an apologist for the IRA as the other PM.

Cheepandorm · 09/06/2017 21:18

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HumphreyCobblers · 09/06/2017 21:18

Excellent post DogStrummer

Corcory · 09/06/2017 21:20

I am glad I voted conservative. We got the SNP MP out with a stonking majority which was fantastic and I hope gives NS something to think about.
No the DUP are certainly not like the Conservatives. They are way far, far right - like the Trump republicans and are associated with the Orange order. Just because there are only 10 doesn't mean they can't cause trouble. They can hold the government to ransom by only voting for the government if they get their way and have the amendments they want or can completely block any piece of legislation the government is trying to get through. That is the whole point of not having a majority.

Thiscantreallybehappening · 09/06/2017 21:20

DogStrummer - I agree completely - what was TM thinking. Things could have been so different.

Oakmaiden · 09/06/2017 21:22

I can see why David Cameron decided on a referendum ... I cannot see why they misjudged their campaigns quite so very badly. They deserved to lose for their errors of judgement, the Remain campaign was so bad with it's threats and finger wagging putting people's backs up

In fairness to David Cameron, he ran a very successful campaign. Called Leave. It just turns out he didn't really want to win...

TheFallenMadonna · 09/06/2017 21:24

It was a gamble. Surely there have been enough unexpected outcomes in the last few years to make it clear that there are no certainties in elections? Incompetent leadership, not just an incompatent campaign.

ConfessorKahlan · 09/06/2017 21:27

What a strange question OP!

Of course people that voted Conservative are not happy. When voters choose who to vote for, they are doing so because they want that party to win the election and form a government.

Just as the labour voters should not be happy, because they didn't win either.

Personally, I am extremely worried about the Brexit negotiating position of the Government now after the debacle of a Hung Parliament. We need strong and stable leadership but we do not have it now!

TheFallenMadonna · 09/06/2017 21:28

When did we last have it? Not May, and not Cameron either.

ConfessorKahlan · 09/06/2017 21:34

Good point Madonna, I just feel like we needed a strong government with a workable majority in order to negotiate Brexit. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the ones on offer were up to the task really. What we're left with is complete mess that the EU could take advantage of.

beepbeepimasheep · 09/06/2017 21:34

She's blown 'strong and stable' out of the water now.

SarfEast1cated · 09/06/2017 21:34

I can't think that many Conservatives will be happy joining with the DUP, I've seen a couple of petitions already.
I really don't approve of the personal attacks that seem commonplace in politics, either against the politicians or the supporters.

SweetLuck · 09/06/2017 21:37

Most of us fuck up at work occasionally and it's usually forgotten. Her fuck up is going down in history

Grin this^

user1480267413 · 09/06/2017 21:39

Not happy at all but my MP did survive. I think it was the social care thing which worried people. I am going to chat to my MP and try to clarify it.

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