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Original poster

To ask my neighbour to not put her bin out at 11pm

222 replies

brexitstolemyfuture · 07/06/2017 21:38

Because it's noisey as fuck and wakes me up. She gets home normal evening time so plenty of time to do it beforehand

OP posts:
reuset · 10/06/2017 19:33

You can complain about noise at any time of day if it's a genuine nuisance. I don't think complaining about taking a wheeled bin out, even after 11pm, would be acted upon by environmental health, unless there's something the OP hasn't told us and it's particularly noisy for some reason.

Did you speak to the neighbour, OP?

Lasagnabreath · 10/06/2017 19:38

I already did. I took a screenshot and I pasted a link.

Now I know you haven't been reading my comments Grin

limitedperiodonly · 10/06/2017 20:07

I saw your screenshot. I told you it was shit. What is this law you keep talking about Lasagnabreath?

In case you don't understand laws and simple stuff like that I'll give you a clue. Look up the Public Order Act 1986. That's a law covering anti social behaviour. Scour it until you find the bit that says you have the right to make noise until 11pm.

I'm going out on a limb but I'm betting it doesn't contain that clause. However it does contain a clause saying that people can be prosecuted for causing alarm, harassment and distress'.

It's very unlikely that anyone would be arrested for putting their bins out late at night. But it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Meanwhile there is no law enshrining their right to do that.

brasty · 10/06/2017 20:13

still think it's unreasonable to drag out bins or dump rubbish between 9pm and 7am.

Our bins are collected on the day I work late, and start early. Get home at 9.30pm, and pull out my driveway at 7am at the latest.
Some people see, to have no idea how others live. We don't all leave home at 8-6pm you know.

Morphene · 10/06/2017 20:18

I'm a late bin person, and I did make a horrible racket last week, but I did feel thoroughly ashamed for doing so. I definitely try and be quiet, I just don't always succeed.

I think it is reasonable to let someone know that you are being disturbed. I wouldn't assume people would be at 11, so letting them know may help.

tinytemper66 · 10/06/2017 20:18

Aw bless!

Lasagnabreath · 10/06/2017 20:20

Ok fair enough I may be wrong.

I have read though that 11pm is the cut off of when noise is acceptable. Obviously you can complain about noise but a bin being put out is not enough to complain about. Which is what this thread is about.

keeplooking · 11/06/2017 18:24

It's very unlikely that anyone would be arrested for putting their bins out late at night.

You think? Grin

NotYoda · 11/06/2017 19:19

Blimey

I don't think it's necessary to call anyone a cunt on a thread about bins

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limitedperiodonly · 11/06/2017 19:59

I might be at risk of being arrested if someone persistently woke me by putting their bins out late at night or at the crack of dawn, keeplooking. But on the whole I try to be a peaceable person.

limitedperiodonly · 11/06/2017 20:20

brasty I do understand how other people live. I am lucky to live in a borough with excellent refuse collection. When I was young I'd never have considered that a plus point for choosing where to live. But it bloody well is.

Neighbour disputes come about because of things like refuse collection and parking which often could be solved by the local authority but aren't. They create conflict.

I don't have to keep my rubbish for a weekly or fortnightly collection. I can throw it away in the dumpsters at the end of many street corners whenever I want. I can also put recycling in the dumpsters but I keep it for the weekly collection because I have outside storage and just carry it to the pavement. That's what I did when I got home from work about an hour ago.

But when I use the dumpsters by people's homes I do it between 8am and 8pm. You're allowed an hour either way but I think my window is more reasonable and I am able to do it.

I agree that in your situation, you're stuffed and if I was your neighbour I'd have to put up with it and hope you were as quiet as possible. I'm sure you are.

What I objected to was people saying that because they can create noise nuisance, they will and also claiming that the right to do that was enshrined in law.

tiredplusstressed · 08/08/2017 10:11

My neighbours do exactly the same thing, they wait until 11pm before they decide to put their wheelie bin out. Not only that though, but it seems that they don't have a bin in their kitchen at all, they open the back door and put things directly into the wheelie bin, and then slam the lid shut. Every single time. And then they when they do put their bin out for collection, they put it in front of my house rather than theirs. Even if I move it back, they return it to outside my house. They're inconsiderate idiots.

rider1975 · 08/08/2017 10:19

I'm a put my put my bin out real late offender. If any of my neighbours objected, I'd apologise and change my routine. We are close to a Heathrow flight path though so I think we're all pretty noise tolerant Grin

Optimouse · 08/08/2017 10:28

Tired stop resurrecting zombie threads!!

tiredplusstressed · 08/08/2017 10:32

I'm sorry I didn't realise it is a zombie thread. It didn't have any warning when I posted my message. How old must a message be to make it a zombie thread?

greendale17 · 08/08/2017 10:41

YANBU- who puts their bin out at 11pm????

AprilShowers16 · 08/08/2017 10:49

Just ask, she probably doesn't realise and assuming she's a normal nice person she probably won't mind.

IncyWincyGrownUp · 08/08/2017 11:00

Two months isn't zombie. Years is zombie.

I put my bin out late last night. It usually gets done first thing in the morning, but seeing as we're not haring out of the house in a morning due to summer holidays it gets done when it gets done. I'd much rather trundle the bin out at 11pm than miss yet another ridiculous fortnightly collection.

HiJenny35 · 08/08/2017 11:02

Yabu it's 11, if it was 12 or later I'd see your point but she isn't being unreasonable at that time.

Batoutahell · 08/08/2017 11:02

Ask her! She might be a lot nicer than some of the assholes on here. If it was me, I'd happily not wake my neighbour unless there was a very good reason for doing it at 11pm which is apologetically explain.

simon50 · 08/08/2017 11:06

What time do the bin men collect the bins?
If the NDN works late shifts maybe she's not up before they collect the bins?
Maybe you could ask her to put the bin out before she goes to work or would that block the pavement ?

Minkyfluffster · 08/08/2017 11:17

I put bins out before going to bed, if I did it straight from work I would have to go out to the bin during the evening leaving DC's unsupervised, just not practical.

I do the final tidy, empty internal bins and then put bins out go to bed. I day a week, can you not just go back to sleep?

The bin collection lorry is the noise issue around here, they wake everyone up!

smurfit · 08/08/2017 11:51

If you don't ask, the answer is definitely no. As long as you're polite about it then there is nothing wrong with asking for a little consideration. As others have said, she might say no so you'd need to be prepared for that but if my neighbour asked me something so insignificant like my nutso dog I would certainly make effort.

Catra · 08/08/2017 11:55

We usually put out bins out around 11pm - any earlier and we'd have more rubbish to go in it and it's not just a case of popping out to put extras in as we live in a cul de sac that the bin lorry can't access so we have to take it right down to the corner which is at least 300m. If any neighbours had a problem with this and asked politely we'd have a rethink but thankfully no one's particularly uptight where I live.

PeapodBurgundy · 08/08/2017 15:40

Mine doesn't go out until the early hours of the morning sometimes, my toddler is going through a delightful phase of not properly settling in bed until near midnight; by the time I've tidied up and emptied the indoor bins, it's often a ridiculous hour. I'd put them out at teatime but people go through the bins scrounging for goodness knows what and it will be strewn everywhere Angry

That being said, I doubt anyone can hear the noise of me putting my bin out over the thudding music, screeching car tyres and domestic disagreements that add to the ambiance hellish cacophony of the area during the wee small hours.