AIBU to seriously wonder who reads The Daily Mail and The Sun?

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Both papers today have done themselves proud with their anti-Labour rhetoric and lies/misinformation.

So it does beg the question, who reads this rubbish and believes it? Anybody with half a brain cell and google can find facts out for themselves.

Am I being naive and people just don't want the truth, they want a version of facts that they believe is true?

Apart from anything else, it's just absolutely rubbish journalism.

thank you for that- i wasnt sure if it was still the case up there or not.

Clearly these newspapers -the DM and the Sun are mindlessly consumed by the lumpen proletariat who really should be reading something improving And worthy

Unlike the Guardian which is read by intelligent middle class people who are so open minded their brains have fallen out.

If Iyou want to read the Guardian just pop over to the EU Ref board where articles are posted left, right and centre, that way you save the subscription

To literally answer the thread title:

My mother reads the DM. Believes it all. She's 79.

The Sun is the newspaper of choice on all the building sites DH ever works on. There's a battered copy on just about every table in the tea hut every day.

We somewtimes get it free at the flats. One of my neighbours gets a load and puts them on the table. I am absolutely not on their political wavelength and also do not like their 'Femail' section which is usually about dividing women (though they are clever enough to use women journalists so think they can get away with it). Usually "I am prettier than my friends" "Look at my perfect bum" Working v SAHM ad nauseum. I do read it though if I have nothing else to read. I obviously don't believe everything I read! I cut out the recipes!

They're horribly biased yes, but so are all newspapers and you read what most fits with your existing views because it then gives you more fodder to believe exactly what you already believe and even more strongly.
Please don't pretend the mirror or the guardian aren't biased too. But their bias is ok maybe?

Bias is one thing, out and out lies are another. Even Wikipedia doesnt recognise the DM as a news source.

I have worked for both the DM and the Guardian in the last 10 years.

I haven't read the Mail since I worked there. It was the most chaotic unorganised workplace, much of which is reflected in their output online in the rush to be the first to expose a news story. This obviously leads to often inaccurate stories published and many of which aren't even sub edited.

The Guardian is much more of an organised paper. As they aim to present in depth reports they take their time in researching etc hence in my opinion are one of the most accurate (and honest) papers out there.

I don't think it is so much your choice of newspaper, but whether you choose to blindly believe every word that is printed. I read all over, but I'll then go and check the facts behind the headlines.

There's no doubt that all papers are biased, but the DM and the Sun go beyond that and print outright lies. That's not journalism, it's propaganda.

To quote Alan partridge 'daft racists'

Who reads it?
Racists, misogynists including women, idiots that think it's the immigrants fault they have failed at life, people that believe women should be chained to the sink and serve their man like the good ol' days, people that believe a woman's worth is directly proportional to her waistline, her boobs and to her "pins", people that believe everyone who disagree with them is a 'special snowflake'.
And if you read that paper, do check yourself to see if you have any of the above beliefs, I'd be surprised if you don't. Unless, you only read them for a laugh.
This is not about politics it's about fundamental intelligent human behavior. When, they rip off Kelly Brooks' looks and you get 100s of comments on how fat she looks, then you are no better that the coliseum audience where the lions tear up human to shreds. We are meant to become more civilized.
If you are a staunch tory like my MIL, read The Telegraph not that odious Hopkins.
I worked for Trinity-Mirror for a while but it was back in 2000. They were more of a tory paper then, I can't believe how they sold their soul for profit.

My granny reads the mail. She's 90 and believes everything in it. She doesn't go out much these days so she thinks the country is over run with muslims and obese people. I've tried telling it's a dreadful rag but she doesn't believe me.

why have you picked just those papers? The mirror and the guardian are just as crap and biased.

The Guardian really is not though. You might not agree with it but you can't put it on the same level as the DM. Look at the language used. Look at how often the DM has to retract bogus news stories aka complete fiction. Read the DM if you must but don't pretend it's real journalism.

I rest my case, m'lud.

Using big words doesn't make the journalism unbiased

Look at the coverage of the security forces admitting there are 23,000 jihadis on our streets. Times, Mirror, Mail, Sun - front page or very major articles with headlines mentioning the 23,000. Guardian - nothing on the day the story broke, no headlines I can find. Then article decrying Paul Nuttall's response. Oh, that's the big story, is it?

Some people really need to start applying their critical faculties to what they read.

I didnt say it was unbiased. You seem to have some difficulty in applying critical reasoning yourself.

the Telegraph is just as bad.

Big story today that Labour supporters will be put off voting if it rains

The mirror and the guardian are just as crap and biased

The Guardian really is not though

How is that not saying the Guardian is unbiased??

My dad told me he had never voted Tory, yet he reads the daily fail. I was going to year him about his that could be possible, when it occurred to me he could vote ukip. That was a sobering moment.

And the 23000 jihadi story is also in The Guardian - you might have missed it because it wasn't dressed up as in the hysterical sensationalism you seem to prefer.

I was going to start a thread about this until I saw yours. I was standing in a queue and glanced over and the Express, Sun and Mail caught my eye. I was completely disgusted by the covers and very angry about them. By contrast, the mirror and the guardian didn't have covers anywhere near as sensational or eye catching as the other three (on this occasion - I don't buy newspapers so I don't know if this is the norm)

One thing is for sure, if the conservatives win this election it'll be because of Rupert Murdoch - not Theresa May or the Tory manifesto!

All newspapers have a right or left wing bias, in that they write from a particular perspective. But only the mail has been banned by Wikipedia as a source as it is factually unreliable

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/wikipedia-editors-ban-daily-mail-source-citation-unreliable-mail-online-a7570856.html%3famp

A decision apparently based on the Mail's "reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication."

It is this worrying that many (not all) readers accept what they are fed without question. For all its faults, the same really cannot be said about the Guardian.

Aristos regularly read the Mail. Go into any gentleman's club type establishment or smart private club with accommodation etc in London. The Mail under most bedroom doors...

Most read it, upper middle class etc, even if they just check in for salacious gossip...

Not AS biased as the DM and not crap. What about the number of retracted stories and blatant lies - what's your opinion on those?

Just to add - I would NEVER click on an online article by any of these papers either - traffic on their sites is what brings them advertising revenue. Also - if you haven5 look in to the 'stop funding hate' movement.

One thing is for sure, if the conservatives win this election it'll be because of Rupert Murdoch - not Theresa May or the Tory manifesto!

yes you keep telling yourself that

It will be because Labour are a useless shower of shite when they should be walking it.

In my opinion all newspapers have a political leaning towards one particular party. I have always read the DM because it is what my parents always took. Fortunately I am intelligent enough to disregard the politics and just read the actually news . Other newspapers are anti - Tory are those the ones you read OP? I am not a staunch supporter of any particular party and often read other publications also, I certainly would not judge people on their reading matter.