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cozietoesie · 07/06/2017 22:58

They knew it would be leaked, I guess.

GingerIvy · 07/06/2017 23:00

Jon Cooper‏Verified account @joncoopertweets 10h10 hours ago
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⚡️WH source: Top Trump aides trying to pack his schedule in effort to distract him from Comey testimony. Desperate to prevent live tweeting.

GingerIvy · 07/06/2017 23:01

The Hill‏Verified account
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House votes to waive lie detector tests for Border Patrol agent hiring: hill.cm/FtMEMjX
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Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur 12m12 minutes ago
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Adam Khan Retweeted The Hill
This is nuts! They're waiving lie detector tests because 2/3 of applicants fail them and now they have a shortage of thousands of agents…

GingerIvy · 07/06/2017 23:02

Vicente Fox Quesada‏Verified account @VicenteFoxQue 7h7 hours ago
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Vicente Fox Quesada Retweeted Super Deluxe
Hello, @realDonaldTrump, it's me with a small reminder for you: We're still NOT paying for your #FuckingWall.

Love it. Grin

TrumpsUndevelopedSpaceBtwnEars · 07/06/2017 23:25

How prescient of Comey to write down detailed notes from the very beginning of his interactions with Scrotus. And the extra detail about not having done so with Obama ever is just the perfect 🖕🏻to trump.

I'm almost tempted to take a day off work tomorrow. Grin

BerylStreep · 07/06/2017 23:51

I'm working tomorrow but thinking of changing offices to one that has a tv in it.

Is there a tv channel that it is being shown on, or just live streaming?

BerylStreep · 08/06/2017 00:02

So my dream team dinner party is:

Comey
Yates
Macron
Trudeau
Obama
Merkel
All of the Nordic Prime Ministers

And randomly, Hillary Benn

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 08/06/2017 00:08

Oh my word, Beryl. My knees went weak at that list. Can I join you & can we also have Christine LaGarde, because she & Merkel looked like they were having a hoot on stage at that women's event which Ivanka also attended? I like seeing Angela laugh.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 08/06/2017 00:08

I have a huge soft spot for Michelle Obama too.

cozietoesie · 08/06/2017 00:10

It seems a little heavy on men, Beryl. Wink

BerylStreep · 08/06/2017 00:36

Good call for Michelle, she's invited too.

cozietoesie · 08/06/2017 00:39
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lionheart · 08/06/2017 00:43

Showing on BBC Parliament I think.

lionheart · 08/06/2017 00:51

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 4h
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(THREAD) Do NOT watch tomorrow's historic Senate hearing without understanding Obstruction of Justice. This thread explains it—please share.

(1) Obstruction of Justice IS a legal term and federal criminal statute. It has a strict legal definition. It is NOT open to interpretation.

(2) Obstruction of Justice is NOT a political term. Politicians may NOT define it in whatever way pleases them or may advantage their party.

(3) But the history of impeachments—impeachment being a political process—establishes that Obstruction of Justice IS an impeachable offense.

(4) If public testimony establishes a "prima facie" case of Obstruction of Justice—a sufficient case on its face—Trump SHOULD be impeached.

(5) The federal Obstruction of Justice statute does NOT take into account—or care about whatsoever—how a defendant's actions made you FEEL.

(6) The Obstruction of Justice statute ALSO does NOT take into account—or care about at all—whether an investigation was in FACT obstructed.

(7) Questions tomorrow about how Trump's actions made Jim Comey FEEL—or about whether those actions IMPEDED an investigation—are IRRELEVANT.

(8) As an attorney, I know Tweet #7 will be confusing to some people. But remember we are discussing a strictly defined criminal act here.

(9) Obstruction of Justice IS about actions of the defendant. It is NOT about the specific intent of the defendant in acting as he did.

(10) This is because Obstruction of Justice is NOT a "specific intent" crime. It requires only the defendant's knowledge of HOW he's acting.
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(11) As the subsection of the Obstruction of Justice statute relevant here involves words, a defendant's knowledge of his words is PRESUMED.

(12) Therefore any Obstruction of Justice case against President Trump IS about—almost exclusively—the nature of the words he said to Comey.

(13) If the words Comey CONTEMPORANEOUSLY RECORDED as having been said by Trump were indeed said, Trump IS guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

(14) What this means is—as we've already seen Comey's opening statement—we KNOW that he will allege Trump committed Obstruction of Justice.

(15) It does NOT matter if Comey says he didn't FEEL Trump was obstructing justice. It might've helped a prosecution, but it is unnecessary.

(16) Tomorrow we'll see a concerted GOP effort—it actually started at today's hearing—to misinform us about what Obstruction of Justice is.

(17) The reason the GOP must misinform us about what Obstruction of Justice is? THEY established—with Clinton—it IS an impeachable offense.

(18) And under "Obstruction by Intimidation, Threats, Persuasion, or Deception (18 U.S.C. 1512[b]), Trump DID "attempt to persuade" Comey.

(19) His "attempt to persuade" involved words whose clear meaning would have been to impede or end a pending federal criminal investigation.

(20) So DON'T let GOP pols or pundits—or conservative pals—use disinformation about Obstruction of Justice to obscure how historic today is.

(21) Another lie you'll hear tomorrow is Obstruction of Justice is hard to prove. It isn't—at all. Because it's NOT a specific intent crime.

(22) As only Comey and Trump were present when the words making up the case were said—by Trump's design—this SEEMS a "he said/he said" case.

(23) This too is a sort of lie. Comey a) contemporaneously memorialized the conduct, and b) is testifying about it under penalty of perjury.

(24) On this record, NO reasonable juror could conclude Trump didn't commit Obstruction of Justice—especially as Trump won't deny the words.

(25) What this means is, Mueller WILL report to Congress that—were Trump not president—Mueller would indict him for Obstruction of Justice.

Popkids · 08/06/2017 01:11

Long time lurker 1st time Bigly poster. Up late watching on BBC. You can see Comey cringe everytime Schiff reads out Trump's tweets. I did enjoy Schiff asking Comey whether he'd been involved in McCarthyism as alleged by Trump "I try to avoid any -isms"

AcrossthePond55 · 08/06/2017 01:39

PS - how large is your rep's majority?

cozie As of the last statistics there are 183,800 Republicans, 117,300 Democrats and 97,200 other. In the 2016 elections Trump took 54% of the district's votes. However, Sen Harris (a Dem) was elected with 63.3% of the vote. Go figure.

Thanks for the Abramson tweet thread, Lion. Good explanation of Obstruction!

TheClaws · 08/06/2017 02:29

Breitbart is focusing gleefully on the 'fact' that Trump himself was not being investigated. It's all "fake news/go home lib-dem MSM suckers!" over there - ignoring every other part of Comey's statement, particularly the bits where Trump asks the FBI not to investigate stuff implicating him/his staff. That's a big "nothing burger" according to them. Now, imagine if Obama did that? Clinton? Their heads would explode.

saffronwblue · 08/06/2017 02:29

Can we have Chelsea C? She has a very dry humour on twitter.

TheClaws · 08/06/2017 05:19

Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 1h1 hour ago
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.@LindseyGrahamSC on released Comey testimony: "All in all it's a pretty good day for @POTUS." #TheStory fxn.ws/2rXbPMX

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/06/2017 05:46

David Shuster @DavidShuster
Senate sources: "surprises and new info coming" from #Comey Thursday. He "deliberately withheld things in written statement" re #Trump

cozietoesie · 08/06/2017 06:10

Sorry, Across. You've lost me. I thought you had a GOP rep. I must have misunderstood.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/06/2017 06:15
Grin

Frederick Douglass @HITEXECUTIVE
Trump's War Room is in full effect.

Getting him up to date with everything going on around him.

He'll be ready for the #ComeyHearing

Is justice Comey for Trump?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/06/2017 06:45

Seems significant:

David Kurtz @TPM_dk
Sen. Reed nailed it with this question to McCabe: talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/mccabe-special-counsel-probe-coould-include-trump-comey-conversations

Is justice Comey for Trump?
cozietoesie · 08/06/2017 07:10

I hadn't really clocked that, I fear.

I have now.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/06/2017 07:35

It may be childish but it's worth considering! Grin

Britons plan mass-mooning for @realDonaldTrump visit
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