To think the KKK do not pose the same threat as radicalised Islamists?

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What it says above really. I make no excuses for the KKK, they are obviously racist, supremacist and have the blood of many innocent people on their hands but do they really compare with the current threat? I have been told that they do.

I honestly didn't realise the KKK do anything any more, I thought they just seethe and make threats.

Maybe the whole reason why the kkk don't have to bombs every black church is because they have people in government, and working with the government that they don't have to make a point when doing their dirty work to destroy lives.

It's it just about women of colour tow and their sons. Women in general gets affected too. Starting with abortion laws and mike pence. The need to control the women.

*they have power, they don't need shock and awe to garner attention.

Attention to their agenda of stripping all but white "Christian" men of power isn't wanted, they have the means, they don't need shock tactics.* This ^

The KKK is in the Whitehouse???? MN does it again

To put it in context, ISIS have ambitions to be similar to the Nazis in the scale of their atrocities. Even at this point where they are just starting out, they have already perpetrated genocide against very large amounts of people. You could fill football stadia with the people they have lined up and shot, dismembered, burned alive, crucified, impaled with crucifixes, tortured to death, thrown off buildings - and then probably even more have been raped, had their children raped in front of them, been sold into sex slavery and so on.

So no actually, the KKK - even though they are every bit as terrible as everyone here says - are not as big a threat as ISIS, even saying so is people from one part of the world making things all about them in a way that is utterly BLIND to perspective. Even if you include those clowns in the UK, no. Obviously not.

Black people get executed in the streets, because of endemic racism in the USA, by the police.

Just look Pence up - look at his history, his life. He is a fundamentalist Christian. He wants no abortion, no access to birth control, he is anti-gay, believes in conversion therapy. He thinks the Bible is the literal word of God. He believes that God had blessed America to be the bringers of the gospel to the sinful world. He believes that God made the world in 7 days. He thinks women should bear children and not be in the workplace. He believes that killing people of other religions is acceptable in the interest of Christianity.

Of course he isn't advocating mass killings, he doesn't have to. Gradual erosion of rights is a far more effective and powerful tact.

So no actually, the KKK - even though they are every bit as terrible as everyone here says - are not as big a threat as ISIS, even saying so is people from one part of the world making things all about them in a way that is utterly BLIND to perspective.

Finally a sane point. People having the nerve to say that the OP is ignorant and blind, we'll ask yourselves this. Would you rather be a black person in the USA today or be a Yazidi, Christian, Shia Muslim or atheist in ISIS controlled territory? If you even have to think about that question, I'm sorry but you are extremely ignorant. You're actually more likely to be killed as a quite person by a black person in the USA today than the other way around.

@Carebear892 you're also more likely to be killed by a toddler in USA than by a terrorist(in the USA).

Slight derail: Has anyone seen the horror film Get Out? I didn't get around to catching it at the cinema, but I've heard good things about it. Is it as good as the reviews?

If you're looking for some white skinned terrorists comparable to ISIS for threat, how about the IRA? They managed to kill over 100 people on English soil and injure well over 1000. It's in the past now though thankfully.

Didn't think we had KKK in the UK. If you want to do a Christian v Islam comparison in terms of killing innocent people in the streets, find an organization in the country affected. America is 1000's of miles away- and not just a physical distance! It feels like OP is clutching at straws!

We had the BNP and the NF and some very nasty skinheads. There were certainly pubs that my friend couldn't go into or they would have been beaten up at the very least.

But nothing like the horror of the KKK.

Google superman defeated the KKK for an interesting read about propaganda and the far right.

Do people really think that an ever dwindling handful of moronic red necks, that is the KKK of today, pose the same sort of existential threat to us that ISIS do ? In light of the recent events, ought we to be talking about what can be done to combat the radical Islamist threat. Or are we only emotional when it comes to white racists?

Well after googling it, isis have been responsible for killing 2040 people over 29 countries not even including the people they have killed in Syria and Iraq and that is since 2014 and that is just isis so that does not include other terrorist acts before 2014. And the kkk were responsible for approximately 3444 people over a 86 year period but obviously could be more. So yes it seems radicalised Islamists are a much bigger threat.

I'm sorry, this whole thread is people saying the KKK IN THE 21ST CENTURY (not historically, which some people can't seem to grasp) are at the same level as ISIS, who are currently controlling territory in Iraq and Syria and are conducting real life genocides of Christians and Yazidis, as well as killing hundreds of innocents in Europe, like London on Saturday.
Last time I checked the US prison system was put in place to replace slavery. Think about it!
Argue what you like.

They voted Trump in and are probably appearing on Capitol Hill right now, so may not come at you with a knife in central London, but they're in positions of power in Washington.

FOTTFSOFGMF!

I see MrsTerryPratchetts post has gone over many heads on this thread

You can deny it all you want, the KKK are in the whitehouse, just rebranded. Easy to dismiss it if it doesn't affect you.

As a pp said, watch The 13th on Netflix, Or Google what happened to Black Wall Street.

The KKK are and have always been terrorists, just like Isis. We just didn't use that word as much until we started attributing it to brown people. We can argue about it or place levels of threats into ranks all we want, but as MLK said "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere".

Yes JustDance RE: Trump voters, I mean, who knows how many more young people on a night out, they're going to hack to death for the glory of Mr President?

Or how many more crowds of kids they're going to blow themselves up in? Cos as we know it's happening all the time --- that! What I really should be worried about is Trump / Brexit voters blowing me up on the Tube tomorrow eh ??

quencher I've thought about it and concluded --- you & justDance are ever so slightly potty!!!!

On a more serious note. What chance do we have, as a society, of dealing with this deadly islamist terrorist threat that's staring us in the face, when there's people out there who believe - who we really need to fear - are people who didn't vote Hillary Clinton? Scary indeed...

The KKK haven't been relevant since the 1970's, so no. They are not as big of a threat to the UK in 2017 as pimply teenage twats who have been radicalized by Isis and its affiliates.
That being said the KKK has never been a threat to the UK.
If we want to talk about right wing deaths in the Uk(which is what Isis are) they have to live up to the 43,000 killed by the nazis and the 400 killed by the Ira.
Isis is right wing. They are fucking Muslim nazi's.
Don't think right wing can beat right wing.

This website is un fucking believable, you people are getting worse... You do know that dont you? Whats it going to take I wonder???

When your kneeling beside an open pit in a orange jumpsuit with a knife across your throat, you can rest assured you wern't a bigot.

A pregnant woman within the laSt year got kicked so much in stomach she lost her baby. Why? Because she's a Muslim.
The far right are dangerous, not just to Muslims.

To a victim of either, what does it matter? A victim of a murderous, evil ideaology is a victim, no matter where on some spurious scale their attacker lies.

It is the nature and quality of evil that matters in terms of how we address and conquer it. Every single innocent death is as important as another.

You can discuss how many each murderous sect kill, but to ask which poses the greatest threat risks suggesting that the importance of victims is variable, or one form of evil threat is less evil in quality than another.

Both Daesh and altRight aim to destroy democratic freedoms and liberal citizenship.

@Crackednips are you under the impression that caring about the KKK and alt-right violence means someone doesn't care about Daesh violence?

When someone is killed because of their colour, religion, sex, place of origin it is horrifying. Whether the killer is Daesh, the KKK, a drone strike or some random racist on a train. They are all dreadful.

I think what people don't understand is that the kkk nowadays don't have to wear the hood. They are your everyday racist and their sympathisers including people like Ben Carson (who said slaves where immigrants to America and had the same American dream. The mans doctor for goodness sake)

Yes JustDance RE: Trump voters, I mean, who knows how many more young people on a night out, they're going to hack to death for the glory of Mr President?
how many more crowds of kids they're going to blow themselves up in? Cos as we know it's happening all the time --*- that! What I really should be worried about is Trump / Brexit voters blowing me up on the Tube tomorrow eh ??

quencher I've thought about it and concluded-- - you & justDance are ever so slightly potty!!!!* I know right lets for get Dylan roof. (Probably was mentally unstable. Right?

On a more serious note. What chance do we have, as a society, of dealing with this deadly islamist terrorist threat that's staring us in the face, when there's people out there who believe - who we really need to fear - are people who didn't vote Hillary Clinton? Scary indeed... it's the denial that you have a problem from within you that's the problem. You expect a terrorist to be an outsider when it's been brewing all along among you from the people born within. You bring them up and turn blind eye.
People have made threads after threads where they feel as "other" when they are asked certain questions from where they are from or some racist rubbish.
Some Mn answer them in goady way instead of asking why that person might be asking the question.
Some people will look somewhere else, the same way others come on Mn where there is sensible people. Other sites are not so great and helpful. instead they radicalise because the people are looking for a need and explanation for why they feel like an other in the countries they have been born in. That is why they are targeted. Being "other" in a country which is meant to be your home leaves you with an identity crisis. What do you think identity crisis is, seriously!
Think about it!

People who look for help on Mn should not be pushed away. That should be a start.