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To think the KKK do not pose the same threat as radicalised Islamists?

132 replies

Helendee · 05/06/2017 13:39

What it says above really. I make no excuses for the KKK, they are obviously racist, supremacist and have the blood of many innocent people on their hands but do they really compare with the current threat? I have been told that they do.

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BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 16:58

Yes, I did misunderstand. Thank you for the kind clarification, robin

I agree with your point and apologies for the derailment.

likeababyelephant · 05/06/2017 17:00

Yeah nothing wrong with lynching black people. Only a matter of time before the kkk jump on terrorist bandwagon and start nurse ring innocent minorities.

Lolly49 · 05/06/2017 17:05

Oh for fs they are all on the same level of absolute vileness.All of them cowards no better than bullies in the school playground.

Crackednips · 05/06/2017 17:07

Thanks mothertruck3r..... A rare voice of common sense.

Calm down stopfuckingshoutingatme

BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 17:12

Sadly, mothertruck is misinformed.

The KKK is in the White House. Need you more evidence of their reach? Pence is a far right ideologue. He is 2nd in command in the most powerful country in the world. Ther is no disputing that they have power and influence and reach.

Why even try to pretend otherwise? Is it too painful a truth?

squishysquirmy · 05/06/2017 17:14

Luckily, despite what some people (not on this thread, obviously) would like us to believe, we don't HAVE to choose between far right ideology and Islamic extremism.
Nazis, the Alt-Right, the KKK, Daesh...... All of them are cunts. Fascists are always desperate for us to believe that they are the only ones who can protect us from something even worse, but its not true.

Groupie123 · 05/06/2017 17:19

I'm brown. Got a knife drawn at me when I accidentally walked past a KKK protest in Texas.

CormorantDevouringTime · 05/06/2017 17:19

As a white Brit, the nearest I've come to terrorist murder was a white supremacist who planted a nail bomb in my high street which exploded shortly after I'd walked by. There are a worrying number of far right terrorists out there, not just targeting ethnic minorities, and even in the U.K. the police have foiled several plots. Fortunately for us in the U.K. they're rarely inclined to suicidal attacks, large bombs are very difficult to make, and automatic weapons are difficult to come by.

And yes there are Buddhist terrorists. I think the Jainists and Quakers are OK though.

Carebear892 · 05/06/2017 17:21

Some of these posts are hilarious in their insanity. The KKK are the same as ISIS, and the KKK are in the White House. So, the Trump administration are as dangerous as ISIS.
I must have missed all the people being burned alive by Trump in steel cages, 5 year olds cutting people's heads off, and women being sold into sexual slavery outside Trump Tower. What a weird upside down world some of you people live in. Look in the mirror.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/06/2017 17:22

@Groupie123 that must have been terrifying. Sad

BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 17:26

carebear they have power, they don't need shock and awe to garner attention.

Attention to their agenda of stripping all but white "Christian" men of power isn't wanted, they have the means, they don't need shock tactics.

BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 17:27

Pence is KKK. He is Alt-Right. Newly branded KKK.

You look in the mirror. The reality isn't pleasant.

squishysquirmy · 05/06/2017 17:27

I haven't seen anyone say those things, Carebear892

Maybe you should look in the mirror yourself, but pop along to specsavers first, eh?

squishysquirmy · 05/06/2017 17:29

And yes, the KKK HAVE burned people alive, btw. Read some history.

quencher · 05/06/2017 17:31

Op should go and watch the documentary "13" on Netflix then comeback and comment on the kkk. Just remember that the kkk has connections around the world. They have or had links with the BNP plus lots of other far right groups in Europe. They are well connected and not just an American issue.

Continue living in your bubble safe space op.

Groupie123 · 05/06/2017 17:32

KKK still shoot and drag black men across the road attached to cars. They still do all of that. They are as bad as the IRA, Neo-Nazis, and ISIS but because they're (so far) an American problem nobody's taken an interest.

OP's post was really ignorant.

metspengler · 05/06/2017 17:33

The KKK is meaningless unless you live in the US, obviously to those of us who do not comparing a real threat to the KKK is minimizing it in a kind of disgusting way.

Meanwhile in the US there is very rarely a threat of islamist terrorism, and the KKK is a real thing, so perhaps the opposite is true. The answer to that question even in the US is probably pretty situational (where you live, your ethnicity, your socio-economic status etc)

As for Trump being as bad as ISIS by way of the KKK, well to an outsider you have to wonder in what possible way that is true, given that ISIS bombs and drives trucks into our children on purpose. Mostly he just seems like a colossal idiot and I genuinely can't imagine the man wanting to slaughter children?

Birdsgottaf1y · 05/06/2017 17:34

The day after the Manchester attack, two men were killed and one badly injured on a bus in the US. A White Supremacist was verbally abusing two women, who appeared to be Muslim. The men stood up for the Women and were stabbed.

We blocked the EDL, marching in our city (Liverpool), for the third time. They've never got further than the train station.

Their opinion is that anyone that disagrees with them, should be deported, even if they are White/UK born. That's not their real opinion, they'd like to smash heads in. What angered people more than anything was that they were telling Scousers that we wasn't welcome in our City. What they spout, is chilling and we should all be terrified of what they propose, regardless of our heritage.

You'd have to be seriously lacking in empathy and practically a Socio/Psychopath to think that the KKK aren't as big a threat to us all, as radicalised Islamists.

RebelRogue · 05/06/2017 17:36

The(official) number of people killed by KKK is around 4000. But you need to keep in mind that 1.they were not broadcasting the killings,recording them etc and 2. Many murders have gone "unsolved", what with the police not caring,or even being part of the KKK.
Keeping it to America,then yes the KKK probably killed more people than the terrorists did.

And since it's America,in 2015 more people were shot/killed by toddlers than by terrorists.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/06/2017 17:36

Google drone strikes. The US has been consistently killing children for some time now.

metspengler · 05/06/2017 17:37

You'd have to be seriously lacking in empathy and practically a Socio/Psychopath to think that the KKK aren't as big a threat to us all, as radicalised Islamists.

Or alternatively, the width of the atlantic ocean away from the actual KKK, and aware of the fact they couldn't give a monkeys about you or the country you live in.

As I said, situational. I don't think anyone being "practically a sociopath" needs to come into it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/06/2017 17:38

@Birdsgottaf1y I get a warm glow when I see footage of how those people are treated in Liverpool. Excellent job!

Carebear892 · 05/06/2017 17:38

BunsBumpBlur

Really. So Pence is KKK. Can you tell me more about which policies you are referring to please. To back up a statement like that there must be some pretty extreme policies he is implementing. Like rounding up all non white people to be executed. I must have missed it, please send me the link.

squishysquirmy

I'm sorry, this whole thread is people saying the KKK IN THE 21ST CENTURY (not historically, which some people can't seem to grasp) are at the same level as ISIS, who are currently controlling territory in Iraq and Syria and are conducting real life genocides of Christians and Yazidis, as well as killing hundreds of innocents in Europe, like London on Saturday.
Then people are actually claiming that people on the same level as that actually control the most powerful country on earth right now. You should get down on your knees and be thankful that what they're saying is nonsense, because if it were true none of us would be here right now.

HateSummer · 05/06/2017 17:41

There's a lot of these "naieve" people who haven't lived in the world asking "genuine" questions these days. 🤔😕

squishysquirmy · 05/06/2017 17:42

Comparing the KKK to ALL Islamic extremism is very misleading anyway, as you are comparing one specific organisation against a much broader range of different (often competing) groups.
It would make more sense (if you have to compare at all) to compare ALL far right extremism against ALL Islamic extremism.

Even if you do add all those numbers up, what is the fucking point?
Do the actions of Hitler make Daesh seem not as bad?
Do the actions of Daesh make the KKK less reprehensible?

Do they fuck.