To be annoyed at cars flashing to overtake?

[moutonfou]

I was on a dual-carriage way, traffic in the inside lane going about 65mph, me in the outside lane overtaking several cars steadily at about 70mph (okay, maybe it was a couple over that...). And then someone comes up behind me at 80+mph and starts flashing me, presumably to get in so he can continue to speed.

AIBU to think the overtaking lane is for overtaking and as long as I'm doing that, I've every right to be there? And that there's no god-given right to travel at 80mph even if that's your thing?

Speed limits www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Flashing is intimidating behaviour. I would have moved to get away from him and taken his reg and reported. I dont feel this is taking it too far as i know of a poor girl who lost her life due to an idiot doing this, and overtaking her too closely which made her lose control of her car.

YANBU.

I drive pretty fast on motorways, usually about 90mph.

It gives me the absolute rage when some arsehole man (and it is a man every single time) gets up my arse and flashes me to get out of his way when I'm doing 90mph.

I mean I'm already doing 20mph over the speed limit so it's just beyond unreasonable.

Every fibre of my body wants to stay in the lane and flip them the finger but I usually end up moving over simply because I don't want to be in a position where I have someone up my arse on the motorway and end up in a crash.

I have considered having some kind of passive aggressive sign I can flip up in my rear window though...maybe ODFOD?!

...and just to be clear. I'm doing 90mph and overtaking, not just sitting in the outside lane.

Rage. Absolute rage.

you have to stop at every roundabout. You would fail a driving test for not stopping.

NO YOU DON'T!!! You can fail a driving test test for hesitating if you stop at an empty roundabout. Some have STOP lines but the majority are GIVE WAY lines - i.e., if there's nothing to give way to you don't need to stop.

Roundabouts are designed to keep traffic flowing. That doesn't happen if you stop when you don't need to!

This thread explains a lot of the idiot driving I see out there.

Whilst it's annoying when someone displays aggressive driving behavior the best thing to do is pull in to the next Lane and let them pass. They are in the wrong but if you antagonise them by slowing or not pulling in and they try to undertake causing an accident then it's your fault as well. Pull in and let them get on with it? Hopefully the next car is an undercover police car and pulls him over!

Yanbu op

Like always most of the posters on this thread only seem to drive on empty motorways or don't drive on motorways at all. It's a clear cut scenario where everyone has time and space to overtake as needed and there's the occasional Muppet sat in the middle lane for no reason to honk at.

The reality is often that the left lane is packed full of lorries. Yes, you can sit between them if you wish but if one fails to stop in time (especially if it's raining) it's curtains to you. But then TBF you are going faster than them anyway so end up staying in the middle lane as you are overtaking (well assuming the traffic in the other 2 lanes is doing more than 50).

The next thing is the lorries start overtaking each other, including up hills, so then you end up all squeezing into the outside lane to get past. If you can get into the outside lane that is. If not you end up stuck behind the lorry doing 50, but when the lorry moves over all of a sudden you can potentially go faster than the people in the outside lane who are only doing 65 anyway. Because they are all idiots and suddenly in the wrong lane because they were attempting to overtake correctly 30 seconds ago. Or hang on actually I wasnt overtaking while I was stuck behind the lorry and couldn't pull out either.

And what's this shit with not stopping at roundabouts? You have to give way, which means that if something is coming you stop and if the visibility is dodgy then you slow. It's all just about picking hairs to get one over people.

And the person who wrote about the dual carriageway speed limits, I really hope you don't drive and if you do please can download a copy of the highway code and read it before you next get in a car.

They are in the wrong but if you antagonise them by slowing or not pulling in and they try to undertake causing an accident then it's your fault as well.

Er no it isn't actually. But if they hit you in the outside lane of a motorway whose fault it is may well be the least of your problems. So yes, prioritising your own safety and letting the idiot past is generally the most sensible thing to do.

You're supposed to slow down if you're being tailgated so that if the moron behind you rams you, you won't concertina into the car in front.

Not in the outside lane of a dual carriageway or motorway.....

I slow down when I'm being tailgated, partly because of this and partly because it's fun.

You are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed on the road.

You are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Assuming she means on a single carriageway road slowing down is the correct and safest thing to do. It is the tailgater who shouldn't be on the road.

I find the "high days and holidays only" motorway drivers to be much worse than regular weekday users. Many of them never see a blue road sign from one year to the next so when they get on it, they treat it like they would a local village street. Fucking liabilities for everyone around them mostly.

They are the ones who think they are the excellent drivers and everyone else is a speeding maniac.

you have to stop at every roundabout. You would fail a driving test for not stopping.

No you don't. You might fail if you did but I think that would be a bit harsh unless you hesitated a lot.

You slow down and prepare to stop but if the way is clear you proceed. Just like at a Give Way sign. It's not a Stop sign, though I am used to people who confuse the two and anticipate them stopping dead in front of me when the road ahead is clear.

YADNBU this gives me the absolute rage. Mainly because it's so bloody dangerous. About ten years ago I was doing about 75mph on the M4 when flashing tailgater came up behind me. I couldn't pull over, there was no space and I couldn't go any faster there were cars in front of me but Mr Dickhead wanted his chance to weave in and out of the traffic and make a twat of himself. He didn't get the chance. A car pulled out in front of me, I had to put the brakes on and Mr Dickhead drove into the back of me. Completely his fault, no safe stopping distance and full liability to him on his insurance. There was damage to my Corsa, extensive damage to his BMW. It was lucky no-one is hurt.
So those of you on here that are doing this, you are driving like dickheads and putting yourselves, passengers and other drivers at risk. Is your journey so important that you can't slow down a little?

It's annoying when people sit in lanes longer than they should but I still don't think I would ever flash someone. I'm just never in that much of a hurry to get somewhere 30 seconds earlier that I see the need to act like a bit of a dickhead.

You should slow down when being tailgated to allow extra stopping space. The more time you have to break, the less likely you are to slam on and more able to bring your car to a controlled stop without being hit from behind.

I drive both our large and small cars on the motorway. My driving is the same regardless, other drivers behave much more aggressively towards me when in the small car. Lights flashing etc.

We have average speed cameras on roadworks on a dual carriage way near us. It's a busy road and traffic flow is better if both lanes are full of traffic doing 50 rather than an overcrowded left lane doing 50 and occasional dickheads in the right lane who think the speed limit doesn't apply to them

Bet it was an audi/4x4/bmw or a mercedes OP 😁

Have the national speed limits changed in the last 30 years? Because I have some sympathy for the person on this thread who got them wrong. I'll admit to not having thoroughly memorised the highway code when I passed my UK test in the late 80's, but at some stage in the 90's I did have the idea in my head that you added 10mph to the speed limit if on a dual carriageway, so the limits were 30/60 depending on city/countryside for ordinary roads and 40/70 otherwise. (I.e. a dual carriageway in an urban area is 40 unless otherwise marked.)

It was a mumsnet discussion a few years ago that led to me googling and realising there is no type of road on which 40 is the national limit.

So I wonder if 40 was a limit at some point in the past, and if not where I got the 40 idea from.

Average speed cameras - when it says 50 and you are doing 50 and the cars on the left are going slower so you are going past them but not going over 50 because it's 50 for a reason and some dickhead decides to tailgate you.

Especially massive lorries. I bloody hope they get caught for speeding.

Assuming she means on a single carriageway road slowing down is the correct and safest thing to do. It is the tailgater who shouldn't be on the road.

Yes, this is what I mean. If a shithead tailgates me while I'm overtaking on a motorway, I will remain at 70 until it's safe for me to move left. I won't be intimidated into ploughing into side on traffic just because the twat behind me thinks he's in the Batmobile. And it's always a he.

As for complaints about undertaking....if the lane to your left is clear, you should be in it!

I did it on a duel carriage way the other day, they over took one car and instead of pulling in before the next car, half a mile away they sat in the outside lane, under the speed limit. (15mph under).

People who cannot change lanes should not be on multi lane roads. It's not hard to look, indicate, look and move. They're usually the sort of people that sit in the middle lane of the empty motorway for miles.

[i'm a former Audi and BMW driver so this may explain my attitude] 😂😂