To think Teresa May has just won the election?

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Listening to TM outside Downing Street vs JC - I think she may have just won the election - saying what people wnat to hear and hopefully some of what she says needs to be done will be followed through with.

Almond, that's probably true of most of us as the media is too busy taking the piss out of him for not eating meat.

He doesn't use it to his advantage either - no mention in his election campaign for example.

Bloody hell, I can't stand this idiot Piers Morgan but he's got a point here.

bloody hell, and in the Daily Mail too

What's happening? What had made the daily mail turn on May all of a sudden?

I notice the Sun is stroll sticking to its drivel about 'Corbyn doesn't ever want to shoot terrorists, it's the most watched video on the BBC' line.

Good. The more people that watch it the better. Because I can't see a problem with what he said at all, and he supports the police making that decision.

"hat's happening? What had made the daily mail turn on May all of a sudden?"

I noticed this too.

My guess is that Theresa May will agree to meet more outrageous demands which the daily mail editor will present her with during their next lunch and that on Wednesday and during Thursday they will put in some super positive press about her and slag off Corbyn more than ever. They control her.

I don't know any public sector workers who would vote for her.

To be fair, most people don't volunteer for left wing hectoring in "real life" already. Who in their right mind would do so where their job is involved.

Also I feel there is an implication in your comment that all public sector workers vote based on public sector funding regardless of other principles. I think that might be unfair and broad brush.

I think there's a bigger problem looming with election. A lot of people may be frightened to vote because they have a genuine fear that polling stations may be targeted by terrorists to disrupt the process if democracy further. Figures bandied about said it could be up to 10% may not vote through fear. If the polls are close it could make a big difference to the outcome. So maybe, just maybe it would have been wise to delay election by a week or so to make sure election is not influenced by the terrorists.

KeepCalm the first and last paragraph of your post contradict themselves. And your reassuring views are not backed up by what other police officers have been saying for years.
Check out the link posted by ssd, just above this one. And this by a detection dog handler;

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/27/exclusive-former-explosives-dog-handler-talks-mays-damage-to-security-ge17/

Detection dogs are our best line of defense against guns and explosives.

What have I missed? How is she going to improve public safety?

here keepcalm

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2946542-The-government-is-lying-about-police-numbers

just seen you are on that thread keepcalm so you wont need my link

I don't know any public sector workers who would vote for her.

It's the "Shy Tory" versus "Gobby Socialist" effect.

At the last GE, our son's school ran a mock GE amongst staff and pupils. Pupils voted by a large majority for Labour, but surprisingly, the teacher's vote was split more evenly, about 55:45 in favour of Labour if I remember rightly. Was quite a shock to see it really, but there must have been a lot of closet Tories in the staff room!

I think there's a bigger problem looming with election. A lot of people may be frightened to vote because they have a genuine fear that polling stations may be targeted by terrorists to disrupt the process if democracy further. Figures bandied about said it could be up to 10% may not vote through fear.

Those people who are contemplating not voting out of fear they might be killed should take a moment to soberly reflect.

Not too long ago very large numbers of people across Europe faced that choice, and many of them chose not just to risk it, but did actually die in real life for for those votes.

I think if millions of men and women can face down the nazi war machine for our votes, we can manage a walk down to the polling station at the very dubious media-hyped risk of something less likely to kill us than our own kitchen appliances.

There are plenty of 'shy Tories' around, same as there were in 2015- and to just assume that someone can work in the public sector and not vote for them is misguided. I was a civil servant in the 80s and 90s and worked with plenty of Tories and they were not 'shy' at all! ( very vocal actually!) and still probably do.

@DJBaggySmalls I think you have me mistaken for someone else? Follow @ssd 's link.......

10% of people won't vote because of fear! What wimps. In that case we shall have to manage without their vote. They should grow a thicker skin.

I hope all Labour and Tories get out there and vote and we have a very large turn out.

The speech might just as well have been on autocue as to my mind it was not from the heart. She cut numbers in the Police has had an impact on their pay and conditions . Where once there was 10-15 officers covering a stations "ground", there are now about that number covering the borough, and don't get me started on rural Policing. I always understood that in days gone by, the Tories would support the Police ,but in terms of pay and numbers, but seeing things how they are today ,makes me very very sad. The NHS is in exactly the same position and yet,TM,is still trying to convince the electorate that they are putting money into it. I am worried for our future.

"PM on police cuts: 'It's not just about resource but powers officers have'" says Theresa May.

Meak attempt at prettyfying her catastrophic cuts.

My gdd travels on a train to school on a 34 mile long journey each way. My family have absolutely got our ' hearts in our mouths' at the moment. Her train would be a target as it is full of schoolchildren. There is no security at all here as it is not London. Anyone could get on that train. Most have rucksacks because they are going to school or work. My gdd who is an intelligent, mature for her age boarded that train with great trepidation this morning, the first time ever she has been nervous. She is 15 and travelled this way since she was 11. Is she a wimp then? Is anyone that worries about the situation in our country a wimp? No there are people with genuine fear. No wimps.

"PM on police cuts: 'It's not just about resource but powers officers have'" says Theresa May.
But that is true though. What's better - 100 unarmed officers with only the ability to say "Oh I say, would you mind terribly not doing that" or 10 armed officers with the power to shoot someone who's just about to kill you? Yes, I admit you don't want 0 officers, but better to have fewer with greater powers than hordes of them with nothing. A police officer with no powers and no gun can't stop a moving vehicle or a terrorist with a gun or knife or bomb. Unless you're planning on using a mass lot of them as fodder while civilians run away behind them. It's about using limited budgets for the best use. I'd rather have fewer decently armed officers any day than more community support officers & ordinary plod walking the streets or parked up somewhere in their cars.

There's all manner of ways 'the police' can be better resourced.

'More bobbies on the beat!' is too narrow & simplistic.

There's plenty of fully trained police officers, but they're not being deployed efficiently.

To train a fully qualified police officer costs thousands - yet they're often tied up in roles that don't actually require a fully trained & qualified person.

More resources to staff admin based or purely custodial based roles with personnel who don't require the extensive training of a police officer for example - this would be cost saving & free up the trained personnel so they could actually do the job they signed up to.

There's plenty of fully trained police officers, but they're not being deployed efficiently.

This is so true. Even with the alleged cut-backs, I still see "proper" PCs doing things like crime prevention talks, post-coding bikes and manning the mobile "community" van at country fairs etc handing out pens and keyrings. You don't need a fully trained PC in their prime to do that kind of low level work. It should be done by specials, PCSOs or PCs on "light" or "desk" duties.

Does anyone else think the Tories might get rid of May? Although I think she'll win on Thursday, I'm not convinced she'll get the landslide she was hoping for. She has run such a feeble, useless campaign that I bet quite a few of her enemies in the party will be hoping for a less-than-convincing win so they can push her aside and replace her with someone else. Not sure who, though. (Gove, maybe?)

Does anyone else think the Tories might get rid of May?

Yes.

Can't you hear that scrape, scrape of the knives being sharpened?

Not sure who, though. (Gove, maybe?) Now you're just scaremongering