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Mum angry I won't change my name

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Jackie7123 · 02/06/2017 01:53

My partner and I have been together for nearly six years so inevitably marriage has come up a few times. He has never been that bothered either way about it but knows I would like to and I know he had come round to liking the idea too. I've always said I wouldn't change my name, we have talked about it extensively and he said he didn't care. In fact a few times he said he liked that I felt that strongly about it. He respected it.

The other day we were with my family and I told them this. They seemed surprised but asked a few questions and left it. That night my mum had a few drinks and took my partner aside to talk to him about it and went off on one. Said that it is wrong and is not how it is done and that it won't be a real marriage. That tradition is too important. She said that if I didn't change my name what's the point in marrying at all. That he should object to my decision. She added that my dad was going to have words with him about it.

This has freaked him out. Now he is asking if we should marry at all seeing as he isn't that bothered about it and I don't feel strongly about doing the whole thing in the traditional way either. He isn't saying anything super strongly, just airing his concerns that have been built up by my mother.

AIBU to be furious at my parents about this? Particularly my mum. We have always had a good relationship. And they aren't old fashioned so I'm gobsmacked at their reaction. I am just so so angry that she thought it ok to try and manage and manipulate me in this way. Rather than ask me why I have made that decision and then tell me her feelings on it she has chosen instead to talk to my bf behind my back in an attempt to force me to change my name sneakily. I'm 28 and have done pretty well. I've always been very sensible (possibly even boring) and they have never had a reason to doubt my judgement. Or to question my choices/lifestyle. I feel that as an adult I have earned their respect, even if they still think of me as their kid. Mum's decision to try and influence me this way rather than actually talk to me feels like a bit of a slap in the face.

My mum also told my bf exactly where my wedding is going to be and everything, I haven't heard anything about any of it! All totally decided.

Now my bf and I will talk more about it because we communicate really well. So I'm not worried about him so much. But what do I do? He doesn't want to damage his relationship with his mother in law by me getting mad at her, although he agrees with me that she was being underhanded. He doesn't want to look like a snitch.

But I can't get it out my head to be honest. I'm upset and I can't help it. I'm shocked that something I thought was entirely my decision and of no real consequence to anyone other than me and my partner would anger them so much.

OP posts:
peukpokicuzo · 03/06/2017 06:47

If the idea of having a family unit all sharing a surname is appealing, but it's the inequality of the traditional pattern that rankles, you could see whether your DH2B might change his name to yours?

Or both of you can change to a name that neither of you grew up with - eg taking some syllables from one name and some from the other?

But keeping the name you grew up with is absolutely fine too - your name is a fundamental part of your identity.

It's worth thinking through what your plans might be for the surname of any future children at this point too.

C8H10N4O2 · 03/06/2017 09:41

RegTheMonkey1 She refuses to address cards etc to Reg The Monkey

Ah yes I had one of those. Up until her dying day all cards/envelopes were addressed to Mrs HisInitial HisName as were any cheques for birthdays etc which I obviously couldn't pay in.

The crunch came when sending birthday money for the children (to me obviously because it was My Job to do all things child related) which I couldn't pay in either. She was torn between making the cheque out to me in my correct name or sending the cheque to their DF to handle.

Lunalovepud · 03/06/2017 09:57

Said that it is wrong and is not how it is done and that it won't be a real marriage. That tradition is too important. She said that if I didn't change my name what's the point in marrying at all. That he should object to my decision. She added that my dad was going to have words with him about it.

They sound like my PILs!

We've been married for years and I still haven't changed my name... Not going to either. I use my married name informally and the kids have DHs last name but I've just kept mine... PILs convinced themselves I would change it because they had spoken to me about changing it... They are always right of course, and I would have seen reason with their convincing argument. (Yeah, right!)

PILs still cross - MIL says "Well you're not really Mrs MrPud then, are you?" and I just laugh and say something along the lines of "Whatever you think MIL... Whatever you think." and just laugh it off. They are always crashing on about tradition when it suits their argument to do so but would be the first to renounce tradition if it suited them. Total hypocrites.

It used to get on my nerves but now I content myself with the fact that although they still bleat on about it from time to time, they have to make an effort to do so whereas I don't have to do anything and they will still be annoyed. Wink

Kennethwasmyfriend · 03/06/2017 10:20

C8H10N4O2 too late for you but for anyone else in that situation - my bank has a note on my file that my (never used) "married name" is so-and-so, I can pay cheques in no bother. I had to bring in my marriage certificate to set it up.

C8H10N4O2 · 03/06/2017 13:20

my bank has a note on my file that my (never used) "married name"

Out of interest when does that date back to? When I tried in the early days to endorse a cheque to pay in I was told I couldn't do it even with a marriage cert as the rules on endorsing cheques had changed. I will definitely pass it on to relevant offspring!

In fairness this was a long time ago - I considered myself lucky at the time not to be told I had to change my name because 'its the rules'. Something I still get sometimes over 30 yrs later from women a generation younger than me.

Kennethwasmyfriend · 03/06/2017 13:41

Less than 10! But I have heard of women trying in this time period and their bank refusing to do it. If mine had refused I'd have moved my account. (Easier than getting relatives to stop calling me it!)

cherrybath · 03/06/2017 17:37

Times have changed and I hope that you can find a comfortable way to put this over to her.

Obviously you don't want to fall out with her over this, but to me the most outrageous part of it is her imagining that she can tell you where and how to have your wedding. Don't know if she is paying for any of it, but if so it might be better to pay for it yourself and do what you want. It can be presented as you saving her the trouble, I'm sure....
At my wedding most of the guests were my parents' friends, but at my son's I had a very limited number of my own friends and relatives.

Personally I did change my name (I'm in my 60's and it was more normal then) but many of my friend didn't. It is all your choice, of course and really shouldn't make much difference to anybody, other than slight complications of surnames at school if you have children.

Writermom22 · 03/06/2017 17:56

Fuck em.

This is your wedding, your life, YOUR decisions. If they don't like it, then they don't have to be a part of it.

Do not do anything to please other people unless it pleases you too.

RaqsMax · 03/06/2017 17:56

The tradition of changing your name seems to be more of an issue with the older generation. I kept my name when we got married. I could see that MIL looked quite shocked when I mentioned I was keeping my own name, and thereafter she persisted in writing to me/referring to me by my husband's surname. Initially, I thought it was quite funny. When she called me Mrs XXX, I would respond and say 'OK, Ms her maiden name!'. She would laugh weakly, but look mutinous. Eventually, we had kids and hyphenated our surnames. Then MIL she started to write to the kids with just their father's surnames. I started to get annoyed.

So one day she did it in front of my husband. He looked puzzled and said 'Mum! Why do you keep doing that? It's really disrespectful. You know that she is called Ms XXX and the children are called XXX-XXX. Why do you keep calling them by something that is not their names?' Well! MIL went bright red and immediately backed down and said 'Sorry, love. I won't do it again'. And she hasn't! He got the biggest kiss for that one!

Areyoulocal · 03/06/2017 17:58

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RegTheMonkey1 · 03/06/2017 18:39

*Identical post going on here (and on and on!) You dont get married in a "Registry" Office, that is for registering LAND and title deeds to property.

I don't know where you live Nannybeach but I certainly had a lovely legal marriage in a Registry Office.*

I was thinking that too, Areyoulocal as I also had a perfectly nice marriage in a Registry Office.

MissWritenow · 03/06/2017 18:40

Does your mum feel strongly about this sort of thing generally, OP? As in, did you know that she poo-pooed marriages where the woman keeps her maiden name or if that a surprise too? It songs like you have a great relationship with your DPs usually so just wondering if this is purely about an opinion you were unaware of previously (in which case it's more the fact that she spoke to your BF behind your back) or if it's more you feel she's undermining your decisions (wedding plans, name, etc.)
Either way it's your decision and not hers but it seems you're more shocked and hurt than solely clashing on the Victorian name etiquette? Sorry just trying to better understand the original question.

MissWritenow · 03/06/2017 18:43

^ Ugh, typo heaven. Sorry

honeylulu · 03/06/2017 18:46

I think the one you get married in is the Register Office which is slightly different to Registry Office.

honeylulu · 03/06/2017 18:51

The Registry is the part of the Register Office where the records are kept, if that helps at all.

bungle99 · 03/06/2017 19:02

Yanbu.
I didn't change my name. My DM was fine. Sil and fil started sending me cards with DHs surname so we had to reiterate for years that was not my name. SIL is actually DH brothers wife, so not even blood related to DH, but was particularly sarky and piss taking about my decision to nit change my name. It's nobody's business whether you decide to change your name or not.
I don't know what it is going on with your DM but she sounds very controlling and a tad jealous and trying to stir things up between you and your DP. Sorry you are having to go through this. Not nice.

cherish123 · 03/06/2017 19:14

Your mum is being unreasonable. It really is none of her business. It does not make any difference to a marriage. The only time it becomes an issue is if you have kids but you can explain this to them. They will probably respect you more for it.

caramac04 · 03/06/2017 19:25

I married age 20 an awfully long time ago and changed my name. Fortunately i like the name.
I got divorced but kept the name as my 4 children had that name.
Last year I remarried but have a totally different outlook on name changing so I haven't changed it. My DH isn't bothered and I can't be bothered
I've advised my daughters to retain their name but it's actually none of my business. It's none of your mums business either.

Areyoulocal · 03/06/2017 19:48

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Beebeeeight · 03/06/2017 19:50

Your dm is bonkers!

Cantstopeatingchocolate · 03/06/2017 20:19

I kept my maiden name and only changed it when I was pregnant with DS. My midwife folder had 'baby mymaidenname'on it.
DH and I had been together for 13 years and married for almost 5 and I wanted DS to have his name. I'm a bit old fashioned that way.
Originally I only changed my bame at the doctors but then it kind of snowballed and I changed passport and drivers license and by the time id done all that and thought some more it was a bit late to double barrel it.
DH wasn't bothered either way but I think my mum was glad I'd finally changed it.
I think your mum will be embarrassed by spouting off something that she probably had kept quiet because she knows how you feel and loves you, it's just not her views and naybe wouldn't have voiced them if she hadn't had drink.

honeylulu · 03/06/2017 23:36

Honeylulu, this is excessively pedantic, unless you are a Registrar or similar official. Registry Office Wedding is an accepted term of use
I'm a lawyer. Common use does not equate to correct use. Pedantry is in my blood, sorry!
P.S. It wasn't me that raised the point. I just enjoy a little research on a Saturday night. Perhaps I should get a life...

Longtime · 04/06/2017 00:08

You have to keep your maiden name here in Belgium for administrative purposes (though I do know of a few anomalies who seem to have their married name on their ID but they have all come over married so I guess the authorities only ever got that name from them). No one finds it strange. No one thinks they are less married because of it. I wanted to change my name at first so as to jump from the end of the alphabet queue to almost the front (did lots of French and German oral exams at uni and got sick of always being last while the others went off to the student bar!) so I called myself Mme C. All official documents, all medical visits all in the name of Mme W. I use a variety - C, C-W (passport is Ms C-W) and W. Problem is, I forget which one I've used for non official stuff half the time!

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 04/06/2017 09:09

You have to keep your maiden name in Italy too, as far as I know. We had a student who went by her married name in the UK, but when they moved back to her husband's homeland (Italy) she had to revert to her maiden name. I can't remember whose surname the children take though - does anyone know?

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