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Mum angry I won't change my name

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Jackie7123 · 02/06/2017 01:53

My partner and I have been together for nearly six years so inevitably marriage has come up a few times. He has never been that bothered either way about it but knows I would like to and I know he had come round to liking the idea too. I've always said I wouldn't change my name, we have talked about it extensively and he said he didn't care. In fact a few times he said he liked that I felt that strongly about it. He respected it.

The other day we were with my family and I told them this. They seemed surprised but asked a few questions and left it. That night my mum had a few drinks and took my partner aside to talk to him about it and went off on one. Said that it is wrong and is not how it is done and that it won't be a real marriage. That tradition is too important. She said that if I didn't change my name what's the point in marrying at all. That he should object to my decision. She added that my dad was going to have words with him about it.

This has freaked him out. Now he is asking if we should marry at all seeing as he isn't that bothered about it and I don't feel strongly about doing the whole thing in the traditional way either. He isn't saying anything super strongly, just airing his concerns that have been built up by my mother.

AIBU to be furious at my parents about this? Particularly my mum. We have always had a good relationship. And they aren't old fashioned so I'm gobsmacked at their reaction. I am just so so angry that she thought it ok to try and manage and manipulate me in this way. Rather than ask me why I have made that decision and then tell me her feelings on it she has chosen instead to talk to my bf behind my back in an attempt to force me to change my name sneakily. I'm 28 and have done pretty well. I've always been very sensible (possibly even boring) and they have never had a reason to doubt my judgement. Or to question my choices/lifestyle. I feel that as an adult I have earned their respect, even if they still think of me as their kid. Mum's decision to try and influence me this way rather than actually talk to me feels like a bit of a slap in the face.

My mum also told my bf exactly where my wedding is going to be and everything, I haven't heard anything about any of it! All totally decided.

Now my bf and I will talk more about it because we communicate really well. So I'm not worried about him so much. But what do I do? He doesn't want to damage his relationship with his mother in law by me getting mad at her, although he agrees with me that she was being underhanded. He doesn't want to look like a snitch.

But I can't get it out my head to be honest. I'm upset and I can't help it. I'm shocked that something I thought was entirely my decision and of no real consequence to anyone other than me and my partner would anger them so much.

OP posts:
TestingTestingWonTooFree · 02/06/2017 07:29

If I was your partner I'd be rethinking marriage purely because it's going to give him an interfering MIL.

Your mum is an idiot. Press on with your plans but tell her to mind her own business.

FatCatFaces · 02/06/2017 07:31

Tell your mum to beak out. Stop talking to her about any of it and elope. It doesn't have to be a registry office. There's loads of places that do small elopement packages all over the country. Choose one, do it, say nothing in advance.

Your marriage is about you two, noone else. Nobody needs to be there. Nobody needs their opinion heard. I couldn't tell you why we wanted to get married either, we just did.

Why is your so worried about what your parents think? If my in-laws were squawking like that I'd tell them to do one without hesitation.

flumpybear · 02/06/2017 07:36

If you can sit calmly with your mum then do so and tell her she's interfering and in danger if ruining your wedding and possibly relationship. Tell her you and your partner decide where to marry and what traditions you take on. It's not that unusual for brides to keep their surname or to double barrel it's not always just the mans surname !!

roundaboutthetown · 02/06/2017 07:42

You have every right to be furious with your mother, as it is none of her business. Have you decided what you will do if you have children, though? Whose surname will they take? Or will you use both surnames for them (in which order)? And how offended will you be if people get your or your dh's surname wrong and assume your whole family shares the same surname?

Gabilan · 02/06/2017 07:44

Maybe she would have loved to keep her identity/sense of self that goes with it and regrets her decision to not keep her maiden name?

That was my first thought. I'd lead with it just to really piss her off.

Well I'm sure there are other, better suggestions for reconciling but she really needs to back off. And you could point her in the direction of The Invention of Tradition. So many traditions are relatively recent and dressed up as longer term to disguise the fact they're irrational bunk.

LadySalmakia · 02/06/2017 07:51

This is a batshit mother issue, not a name change one. And there's no need to elope if you don't want to - it's just time to learn to tell her to back off.

Do what @testtubeteen said and do not back down on any of it.

NotHotDogMum · 02/06/2017 07:53

You need to stop talking to your parents about the wedding, your DM seems to think she partly owns the day. Start treating her like every other guest .

Jackie7123 · 02/06/2017 07:58

Wow loads of answers thanks for replying everyone. You have pretty much reinforced what I already thought.

The weirdest thing is she has never had any longing for a big wedding. Literally we have never discussed my wedding. We aren't into that type of stuff. Neither of us are that girly or anything.

And yeah we do have a really good relationship. She has never interfered before about anything, never mind my love life. That's what was so surprising.

Also I've never thought I was blazing a trail for feminism, it was precisely the small nature of this decision that confused me about her reaction so much. This thread was never a question about feminism but about how to deal with my mum interfering. There was no soapbox.

I don't mind our children having his surname - he is the only boy in his family. I have a brother so my name can go on. Our names don't double barrel well either so I'm not bothered. I also won't be insulted if people make a mistake and call me by his name. I just have always known I want to keep mine and I've no intention of changing that now.

I think a calm talk is the way forward. As tempting as it would be to elope (believe me I thought about that) I am close to my family in general and would like to have them there - at a small venue of my choosing haha.

I think something is going on with her. She seems overly emotional and not herself in general. I just came here to see how others would react in similar situations and I think IANBU. So thanks!

OP posts:
brindisi · 02/06/2017 07:58

Hang on - he hasn't even proposed? You've had a generalised discussion about name-changing (or not) and now your mum is steaming in as if the wedding is imminent. She's telling your DP about the need to adhere to tradition when he hasn't even got his head round whether he's going to propose to you or not Confused That would bother me far more than the name issue. Talk about jumping the gun!

Mermaidinthesea123 · 02/06/2017 08:01

Why should you, I never changed my name through 2 marriages and it has never been a problem, in fact my son took my name as well.
All that hassle changing all of your paperwork.
You are not Offred!

sticklebrix · 02/06/2017 08:03

Elope!

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 02/06/2017 08:09

Your mum is being nuts.

Your boyfriend isn't a snitch, far from it, he's being appropriately loyal to you, his partner in life. It would be much, much more worrying if he hadn't told you. He sounds like a really good bloke - I particularly like him saying he respects you Grin.

Your name, your decision (and his in deciding whether it matters to him - thank goodness it doesn't and he respects you - mind you, if he did and was prepared to call off a wedding on that basis I'd be saying "bullet dodged"). Have you decided how to name children if the issue arises, btw? Friends of mine have gone for the double-barrelled option, but I realise this doesn't work for every pairing of names - you don't want to end up with Chisholm-Fotherington-Thomashurst!

But beware - your mother clearly intends to turn into mother-of-the-bride-zilla. Either squash her really firmly now, or elope/registry office on the QT as PP have suggested.

nooka · 02/06/2017 08:10

I don't get the impression from the OP that a formal proposal is likely brindisi. The OP and her partner had come to an understanding that they would get married. After her mum's intervention he is having second thoughts. I'd be very pissed off too, but as the OP says it's very uncharacteristic it sounds like a chat with her mum about what is going on is the best way ahead.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 02/06/2017 08:15

Marriage isn't about changing names, that's just something small that often happens afterwards but isn't essential.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 02/06/2017 08:16

Book everything beforehand and present it to her as a fine deal. Otherwise it will be a nightmare for you

HotelEuphoria · 02/06/2017 08:18

I talked about this with my mum the other day, she is 81 and had a lovely surname. She said she would dearly have loved to keep it and why should women take the mans surnane, we don't belong to them.

If she had have done this, I may have done the same, her name was better than either mine or her married surnames.

WomblingThree · 02/06/2017 08:20

I think if this is out of character for your mother, it might be worth a little more investigation. Can't you just have a chat with her about why she feels so strongly about it? Is it possible your mum has early onset dementia, or is she suffering from depression? If my mum went off on one over something so inconsequential, I'd be worried rather than angry.

I'll never understand why the default MN setting is "high drama", rather than sensible discussion.

DameDeDoubtance · 02/06/2017 08:21

I would be concerned that he is swayed by her opinion.

iamEarthymama · 02/06/2017 08:21

Do people really "propose" in a formal way?
After a discussion about whether you should get married, do you both see your future together in the same way etc has taken place?

Does the proposee acted surprised? I am not mocking honestly, I just can't imagine how this would work.

My first marriage, no, I can't remember any formal proposal.
My CP/wife; we had been together for 12/13 years and were keen to see equality for same sex couples and felt that we wanted -a- -party- to make a commitment so the decision just sort of got made.

I think there may have been some sort of drunken
"Will you enter into a civil partnership with me?

Yes, but I wanted to ask you!
Ok then you ask me!
You haven't said Yes or No"
and so on

We have been together for nearly 20 years so maybe don't take these things as seriously as we should!

OP you said your mother had been drinking? Maybe she is groaning to herself and cringing?

brindisi · 02/06/2017 08:21

nooka - sure, but having a vague talk about getting married some day is not the same thing as deciding to do it, surely? Have they announced to the parents that they're getting married or not? It sounds as if the mother is taking the wind out of their sails before they've even got going.

MissShittyBennet · 02/06/2017 08:22

Tell her he's taking your name.

DJBaggySmalls · 02/06/2017 08:22

Why would your mothers behaviour make him stop and take a step back from marriage? Why did he choose to take what she said seriously?

He said he likes it that you feel so strongly. But your mothers strong opinion grabbed his attention as well, and it shouldn't have. I'd want to find out whats happening there. What is it about strong opinions that sways him?

Phoebefromfriends · 02/06/2017 08:24

Tell your mum to stay out of it.

Before you have kids have a real think about giving them a different name to you. In the event of a break up there are many women on here that regret giving the kids the partners surname. I would push for double barrelled. Alternatively you could create a whole new name for the whole family.

BarbaraofSeville · 02/06/2017 08:25

Do people really "propose" in a formal way

Well the done thing these days for a lot of people seems to be some sort of elaborate tour of various significant places followed by 'will you marry me' being spelt out in rose petals on the Buckingham Palace lawn.

Anything as simple as getting down on one knee at home with an engagement ring would probably end up being the subject of an AIBU thread entitled 'AIBU to be disappointed with this proposal?'.

Kennethwasmyfriend · 02/06/2017 08:25

Why did you need an "extensive discussion" with your dp about it anyway? Mine said "I assume you won't be changing your name", I said "yep" and that was it. It's not really up for discussion, it's your name.
I wouldn't be keen to marry someone who wasn't all that bothered about it tbh. You are young enough that this may well not be your last relationship. It'll be a lot messier if you marry (sorry)

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