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AIBU?

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...about a 'delicate' friend?

428 replies

Nettletheelf · 30/05/2017 10:53

I'm part of a group of six who have been friends for more than twenty years. We're all women in our forties.

We live in different parts of the country and go on holiday together twice a year: city breaks, spa breaks, that sort of thing.

One of our number (who I'm less friendly with than the others, but whom I still like) regards herself as 'delicate'. She has never been diagnosed with any health problems, but her delicacy manifests itself as follows:

  • nights out have to be curtailed early because she 'gets tired easily' and can't go back to the hotel or airBnB on her own.
  • many restaurant and cafe options are rejected because she has a delicate digestion and the menu doesn't suit it.
  • when we find a restaurant or cafe that fits the specification, she has to choose the best chair because of her delicate joints.
  • when we order wine in a restaurant, she won't have the same as everybody else because whatever everybody else likes somehow upsets her delicate stomach.
  • says that she never sleeps in hotels or unfamiliar bedrooms, so everybody has to walk slowly in the morning because she is exhausted.

We've just returned from a trip, so I'm more irritated than I'd normally be. What I don't get is how she manages to take so many people in. Am I the unreasonable one? There's nothing medically wrong with the woman.

After a long-ish day out on our most recent trip, we decided to sit on the balcony and have a glass of wine. Delicate friend decided that she was going straight to bed because she was tired through not sleeping in unfamiliar beds, etc. After she said goodnight, one of the other members of the group said, "X has done well today hasn't she?"

Me: "Done well how?"

Friend: "well, it's been a long day and it's late for her" (it was 10.30 pm)

Me: "She's a grown up. She can cope with being up until 10.30".

Friend: "but she's a delicate little flower, isn't she?"

Me (laughing): "she's no more delicate than you or I!"

I resent being part of what feels like a ridiculous pantomime in which we're all expected to dance attendance on the dainty, delicate one. I think that cultivating 'delicacy' is a very good way of getting other people to dance to your tune.

Am I right or am I just intolerant?

Luckily I only see this particular friend twice a year. I see the others far more regularly.

OP posts:
Nettletheelf · 31/05/2017 09:55

Wow, Radishal. You're quite full of spite, aren't you?

OP posts:
Nettletheelf · 31/05/2017 09:56

That is hilarious about the pasta!

OP posts:
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/05/2017 10:07

@Nettletheelf is merely answering questions and points from the thread, and continuing with the discussion, @Radishal. I'm not sure why that is such a problem for you.

Is there some rule about how many times an OP can answer their own thread, before they have to retire? Are they supposed to ignore the questions and points from other posters?

Justmadeperfectflapjacks · 31/05/2017 10:16

Maybe take a medical book along next time and suggest as her friends you all try to help her get to the bottom of her problems and find a diagnosis /treatment once and for all??
Then she will be able to fully enjoy her trips from now on without being a dlf (pita) Grin

TheClaws · 31/05/2017 10:24

Well, I dunno. I'm getting the sense the OP is a bit of a PITA, actually, and a tad precious. The way you are attacking me and Radishal, and the crowing of other posters of how they have "delicate" friends like this and they hate them - that is what I was referring to.

I happily admit to being delicate, but I did say I would never expect anyone to cater to me or change their plans.

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 10:26

I happily admit to being delicate, but I did say I would never expect anyone to cater to me or change their plans

Then what on earth is your problem, if you are the exact opposite of the people we are talking about on this thread?
I think people are confused: no-one is being mean about people with actual problems. OP's friend is not delicate, she lies about being so in order to make people do everything she wants.

TheClaws · 31/05/2017 11:10

Peanut Calm down! My first response - that was misunderstood - was simply that I found the overall tone of posts on the thread to be "sneery" towards people who were behaved "delicately", even if the reason wasn't known. Maybe a different word helps? Contempt?

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 11:12

You know whats really annoying when you are perfectly calm? Being told to calm down. It's rude and patronising, and ridiculous since you have no way of knowing my level of calmness Hmm.

You seem to have misunderstood the thread entirely, even when its been explained to you. You must be determined to do so for your own reasons.

user1485342611 · 31/05/2017 11:23

You are definitely NBU. People like this are a total PITA. As others have said, it's never the genuinely delicate or ill people who carry on like this, but the self centred attention seekers who make everything revolve around then.

I've no idea why one or two posters are attacking you.

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:23

TheClaws has not misunderstood the thread. Neither have I. Some people can be a PITA. The person the OP knows sounds like one.
But some people are trying to hide conditions or don't realise they have a health condition.
It is worth pointing out, as TheClaws has, and I have, that it isn't always as simple as some people think.
And yes, getting people to dance attendance around your needs (real or imagined) is not fair or right.
But I repeat, sometimes there is more going on than you realise and if it pisses you off so much, keep away from it.

StHeathensGrammar · 31/05/2017 11:27

I'd love to know why people put up with friends they find so annoying. I'm horribly lonely and have been rejected so many times in my life - people have called me all sorts of names to, including manipulative (though I seem to be more honest and straightforward than most)... so how the hell does someone so irritating and genuinely manipulative still get accepted, have friends, get invited on holiday?

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 11:29

You have misunderstood it, your latest answer simply shows that more.

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:29

Sorry you've been having a shit time lately, StHeathens.

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:30

Well, I suppose this thread is just about slagging off people we don't really know, who piss us off and whose motives are hard to understand.

TheClaws · 31/05/2017 11:32

Peanut Smile Not misunderstood a thing. But thanks!

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 11:32

Still very clear you have, but ok.

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 11:33

Well, I suppose this thread is just about slagging off people we don't really know, who piss us off and whose motives are hard to understand

There you go again. Their motives are very easy to understand, they couldn't be more obvious.

PainCanBeBeautiful · 31/05/2017 11:35

You two are clearly thick and for some reason wanting attention on a thread that is not about either of you in any way yet you both seem to be taking offence at it. Attention seeking much?

OrraBoralis · 31/05/2017 11:35

Radishal Tue 30-May-17 11:26:33
So don't meet up with her. Why are you meeting up with her if she annoys you. Other than having a great opportunity to bitch to your other friends and to randoms on MN about it.

What a ridiculous thing to say! OP meets with 8 other women to have a good time and what is MN for but to 'bitch' about things that you probably wouldn't say in RL. OP has done nothing wrong and is not wrong asking about a situation about a friend.

I would be annoyed that my time away was spent pandering to a delicate flower. If you are so delicate then don't go on holiday, or don't expect 9 others to accommodate you.

OP - YUNBU

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:36

Well that's me told for having an opinion. Thanks

PainCanBeBeautiful · 31/05/2017 11:38

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pigeondujour · 31/05/2017 11:40

people have called me all sorts of names to, including manipulative (though I seem to be more honest and straightforward than most)

Honestly, for a start try not saying stuff like the bit in brackets, nor preferably thinking it either.

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:40

Wondering the reverse: whether some posters on here are feeling guilty about being impatient with friends.

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 11:41

You can have all the opinions you like, but if they are about something quite different to the topic at hand, there seems to be little point.

Radishal · 31/05/2017 11:43

Wow pigeon- nice way to talk to someone feeling vulnerable!