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"After all that kissing arse at the Vatican, in Jerusalem and Saudi Arabia, I'm all touched out" says exhausted POTUS. Trump continued.

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 24/05/2017 23:05

In haste, I will post the old thread shortly.

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cozietoesie · 25/05/2017 21:35

Pain

Nobody knows how it will affect things.

cozietoesie · 25/05/2017 21:36

My German isn't up to original Spiegel, I fear.

PerkingFaintly · 25/05/2017 21:40

That's a really interesting article, cozie.

"Greg Gianforte's assault charge puts Republicans in a lose-lose situation in Montana"

Though I wonder if there will be a difference between how a win by Gianforte would be perceived in the state, and in Washington, given suggestions upthread that assaulting a reporter might be seen as a plus to many Montana voters.

Gumpendorf · 25/05/2017 21:42

OK, I can see why the Twitterers referred to have missed the point. Because some of the US press is seriously dodging the issues re the Manchester leaks.

Apologies for long absence, Perking. The 'Twitter debate' I saw this morning wasn't about the actual information published, but sparked complaints that UK people were being denied information about the attack. Manchester, or so the argument went, was the final straw - we needed more transparency to enable us to gauge what kind of threats we faced, We were being denied that information because the govt didn't want to take what some saw as necessary steps to keep us safe. That's how I saw the debate. I don't agree but it struck me that the attitude to this attack was v different from Westminster. The fact that so many victims are children is a key factor.

Gumpendorf · 25/05/2017 21:46

Lots of Macron love from me. Where is our Macron?

The pushing video is just dreadful. According to R4 news, Trump berated NATO members for not paying their share. Macron, according to the reporter, was openly amused. Others were obviously eye rolling. It sounded embarrassing.

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 21:47

The Atlantic‏Verified account @TheAtlantic 3m3 minutes ago
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Only the Supreme Court can save Trump's travel ban now, @fordm writes
theatln.tc/2r11Dk9

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 21:47

John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 51m51 minutes ago
BY WHOM?

Kinda important to know who instructed the AG to commit a felony by lying on his SF-86.

www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-says-sessions-was-instructed-not-to-disclose-meetings-with-foreign-dignitaries/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=38014505

lionheart · 25/05/2017 21:48

I wonder also if they are telling the truth about the money they claim to have raised.

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 21:51

David Sirota‏Verified account @davidsirota 3m3 minutes ago
NEW REPORT: Meet the GOP mega donor pouring big cash into Wisconsin to try to defeat @SenatorBaldwin in 2018 www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/why-mega-donor-spending-millions-defeat-tammy-baldwin-2543268

cozietoesie · 25/05/2017 21:51

In the context of that campaign, it's not a lot. Moreover, it doesn't say, if I recall, where those funds might have come from - just that they were 'online'?

PerkingFaintly · 25/05/2017 21:52

Thanks for explaining that, Gumpendorf.

That actually makes it sound less rational, because releasing the bombers name and a picture of part of the bomb don't make us more informed about what sort of threat we face. We know. We're rather familiar with bombs.Hmm

On the other hand, on previous occasions I've seen discussions where people were arguing for more coverage, where it strongly looked like the subtext was, "I want you to see pictures of dead children so you get emotional, because then you'll be more amenable to my course of action which I'm going to sell as a solution."

Though I may be reading rather a lot in there!

saffronwblue · 25/05/2017 21:54

For me one of the highlights of Trump's tour is how world leaders have moved from politeness to thinly disgusted loathing to obvious contempt (or gloom, in the Pope's case).
I would like to see a solid apology from Nyt for potentially compromising an ongoing investigation.

lionheart · 25/05/2017 21:54

On the leaks--someone involved in the 7/7 investigations was talking on R4 today about how similar things happened back then.

saffronwblue · 25/05/2017 21:55

+disguised

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 21:56

Kushner and Ivanka failed to disclose their multi-million dollar art collection.

Ooops.

Gumpendorf · 25/05/2017 22:02

Heard your mum and dad were able to keep it civil at the barbecue twitter.com/abstex/status/867842852700782592/photo/1

"After all that kissing arse at the Vatican, in Jerusalem and Saudi Arabia, I'm all touched out"  says exhausted POTUS. Trump continued.
PerkingFaintly · 25/05/2017 22:03
Grin
GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:06

Olivier Knox‏Verified account @OKnox 4m4 minutes ago
There it is. After Trump leaves the Vatican, White House sends Senate his nomination of Callista Gingrich as Ambassador to the Holy See pic.twitter.com/xKSIpwu3qO

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:07

hilarious little video Trump & Pope

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur 4m4 minutes ago
ok who made this 🔥 pic.twitter.com/v5KrKKg8dg

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:12

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account @funder May 24
Tax Doc: Ivanka Trump had 2 tax liens placed on her jewelry company for $320,310.53-for not paying taxes-in 2015. #TrumpLeaks #FireIvanka pic.twitter.com/rE3Urt6Oj8

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:13

Rumours flying that Flynn has finally flipped and is talking. We shall see.

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:14

Sarah Smith‏ @SarahLSmith677 May 10
Replying to @SarahLSmith677
(23A) 💥💥💥Eric Trump's wife, Lara Trump, WORKS AT GILE-PARSCALE as liaison from Trump's "ongoing campaign". www.google.com/amp/www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/news/amp9289/lara-trump-vanessa-trump/ … 💥💥💥 pic.twitter.com/s2itdKmPzf

Remember I posted awhile back that there is buzz that Lara is involved and they have evidence against her?

GingerIvy · 25/05/2017 22:18

Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1 22s22 seconds ago
FP: Trump adviser Stephen Miller is leading W.H. efforts to undercut a G-7 initiative to settle refugees atfp.co/2qoMtmH pic.twitter.com/E8URL7igjn

The little Hitler is at it again.

lionheart · 25/05/2017 22:45

PEN America‏Verified account @PENamerican 5m5 minutes ago
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PEN America Retweeted jimrutenberg
Investigations into the Manchester leakers cannot justify a witch hunt for all whistleblowers in the Trump administration.

lionheart · 25/05/2017 22:50

That is really rather creepy, Ginger.