to be a bit sick of the notion that we need to do things to ensure there is no division of muslim vs other?

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I don't hear about these attacks and then go about the place attacking anyone dressed in Muslim attire?
Why does everyone feel the need to tell us NOT to hate the muslim community?
I see no evidence of anyone actually doing this.
It's quite insulting to be honest. As if, because one man has committed a heinous act I would go around abusing all Muslims.
Give us some credit.

Everytime I agree. I live in a predominantly Muslim community and see casual racism towards them all the time. I have reported stuff to the police, but the community generally ignore it probably because I suppose they are used to it.

A mosque in Manchester was a victim of arson yesterday

I guess you're not very clued up OP. It does and is happening. People are disgusting towards the Muslim community. Some of the twitter and facebook posts, news reports etc make me sick. We need to support and protect our Muslim (and all) community. If you can't grasp why people are saying this, I kindly suggest you educate yourself better before posting threads.

I am against Islam. It's a religion that subjugates women. And yes I feel the same about most religions including catholicism. Much as I loathe the religion, I still have Muslim friends .am I am islamophobe? Probably.

Because it suits the interests of the hand wringing apologists.

ODFOD.

OP you're being a bit blind/naive if you think reprisals don't/won't happen. The braindead knuckle-draggers don't even need an excuse.

There was a picture circulating of a muslim woman apparently just walking by on the day of the London bridge attacks so yes it happens. Locally a man was called an isis bastard in his shop. Dd college is near a mosque she has seen people being shouted at by yobs yeah folk need reminded not to be knobs

I am a muslim hijab wearing woman from Manchester, as some other posters have said, a mosque's door in oldham has been set on fire, a 13 yr old girl has been sneered at with the question 'why are your people bombing' or similar to that affect, a woman has been spat on in a tram near city centre, and just over an hour ago an acquaintance has had a small rock thrown at her from a car.. This is just in Manchester, and only the few reported ones. God knows how many more there are, and will be by the end of week. However, I've had supportive messages and smiles from nonmuslims as well, my neighbours have been especially kind and open.

We wont let the crazy monsters like the attacker or the bigoted loonies like the stone-throwers bring division to our beautiful and strong Manchester. Right now my heart is grieving for the victims of the bombing, but if I see any evil happening in any form in my city, then I will stop it. Hopefully you'd do the same.

Someone posted a really nice reminder on fb about the countless Muslim people (taxi drivers, medical staff, police officers) who helped those during the attack and I was really surprised how quickly the comments were hijacked by racists.

That's one of the things I've shared today on Facebook.

The people who need to be aware of it though won't take any notice of it because it might interfere with their anti-Muslim agenda.

Setting mosques on fire.
Abusing people who look different.
Buses not picking people up.
Press headlines with misleading stats about a group designed to create fear.

What next?

But it seems that there are people on MN who don't know their history.

One of my 'clients' at work today told me he had to sit his son down and explain to him that people might say stuff to him on public transport over the next few weeks. He did this because in the past that has happened to him after a terrorist incident.

It happens- already people are stating that muslims were absent from the Manchester vigil. I was there and that is catergorically not true.

I saw a photo earlier of Muslims holding up a banner about love not hate at the vigil.

But people see what they want to see.

I was a teen after 9/11
Got chased down the high street and screamed at and spat at and called osama bin ladens wife . Hope this helps .

Clearly the OP has never been on Facebook. Some of the group's there are awful and the hatred is disgusting.

Some people DO need telling

@Leanback you're right, I was there at the vigil last evening, along with a family member. One of my friends came with a whole group of local mosque volunteers, all hijab wearing. We were all interviewed by 5live, channel4, ABC network. We were all there. I dont know seriously what can we do more- take a picture and tattoo it on our bodies?

Here's some:

Lots of people do. I overheard my neighbours today, ranting about Muslims.

It appears there was a white British former RAF gunner who recruited himself to IS. Why hasn't there been more coverage of this?

On the other hand, I would like the British Muslim community to look more inwardly into what it is about their religion that appeals to extremists.

Theresa May and the cons austerity cuts have come at a cost. 20000 police officers have lost their jobs over the last 7 years and border forces have been cut by 15000. Shocking.

I know what you mean OP - I don't feel any anger towards Muslims and I've seen no evidence of it among my friends, family or colleagues, on social media or otherwise.

But it's very important not to assume that your immediate circle is an accurate representation of the real world. I think we are just lucky enough not to be associated with racists.

Just because it's not on your FB doesn't mean it's not happening. Read a newspaper.

Quote from now ex fb friend (was exH aunt)

"It's about time we looked after our own and sorted out the packies. They're killing us all. Shame therres no mosques in town, hey!"

My friends are nice too OP, none of them have made racist comments on Fb this week and I live in Manchester. However I am not naive enough to believe my friends are representative of the country as a whole. You need to open your eyes to more than your little bubble. I find your comment that you have 'nice friends' quite insulting, it suggests that the rest of us don't when in fact, we just read the news.

I just read a rant on FB from a friend of mine about how the law should be changed so that you don't need evidence of a crime to lock up these kind of sickos - the police should just be able to raid mosques and sling people in jail.

(Not a FB friend anymore)

And I note, already someone on this thread has referred to people who don't believe that bigotry is OK as 'hand wringing apologists'. I think we clearly do need to be reminded to not blame muslims.

I read a report about a 14 year old girl who was harangued in the street by an adult man who shouted at her to 'stop bombing people', leaving her in tears.

If that's not hate, I don't know what is.

If you witness someone being harrassed or intimidated go and speak to the person being verbally abused, say hi, ask if they want to to go for a coffee, turn your back on the abuser and ignore them, give the person being abused an option to get away without it turning into a full scale fight.

I posted on facebook yesterday, I said that we should stop the hatred, stop the stupid memes and stop harrassing muslims because it's the actions of one man, not indicative of an entire religion. It turned into all out war at one point but I've seen a few peoples true colours and will never talk to them again. I was called a terrorist sympathiser, a coward, a liberal leftie, a snowflake and told I can go fuck myself. All because I said that hatred is a wasted emotion and we are far better as human beings concentrating on showing love and kindness where we can. Hatred eats you up and destroys only you.

I am against Islam. It's a religion that subjugates women. And yes I feel the same about most religions including catholicism. Much as I loathe the religion, I still have Muslim friends .am I am islamophobe? Probably.

I think it's possible to dislike (or rather disagree with) the religion and to like the people.
Many follow a religion as part of their heritage and culture.
And there are many aspects that have merit, but are often overlooked. As for most religions.
There are also different currents of Islam. It's not a single entity.