To use the disabled loo when I'm with my son?

[RestingBitch]

My sons 9 months and obviously still in his pushchair. The majority of the time it's just me and him when I go into town/visit places. When I need the loo I get an attack of conscious, I normally use the disabled loo so I can bring him in with me.
Can't use a regular loo as I can't get him in the cubicle in his chair. Don't want to take him out of his pushchair and plonk him on the floor as the floors are manky and he will eat whatever is on the floor. He'll also probably try and crawl under the gap and interrupt someone else. Don't really like the idea of leaving him in his pushchair whilst I nip in the cubicle, so providing there isn't someone waiting for the disabled loos, AIBU to use them? I'm usually in and out and so far I've never encountered anyone waiting for one, or the impatient rattle of the door. If I am being unreasonable, short of pissing myself what's the options?

Not a troll, and don't work for any newspapers :).

Comparing going out with a baby to living with disability is incredibly offensive
It also makes your average parent seem like a helpless, clueless arse

I'm no genius but with three children, including a disabled child, I've never needed to use disabled facilities

People confuse want with need. It my be easier and more convenient to use the disabled facilities but it is rarely needed unless you actually are living with disability
Dressing it up as 'oh but I find it so difficult/worrying/challenging is just a bit pathetic TBH

This ^ in a nutshell

MrsPeelyWaly Then please explain what someone like Sammylou1 should do then?

In my experience the vast majority of the time in life kpo58 it is I'm not disabled who cares about those who are. Virtually everywhere my child goes it is not designed for people like him and people think his needs are less important because he is in the minority.

I like how people are going, I'm disabled, fk the rest of you.

Yep that's exactly what people are saying.

FFS I give up.

"I like how people are going, I'm disabled, f**k the rest of you. You can't use our toilets which are empty 99% of the time and you are going to have to struggle like we have/had to or wet yourself. No let just disabled go first and then being helpful to others who are really struggling"

Actually agree

'I like how people are going, I'm disabled, fk the rest of you.'

It's more like 'I have a dc so fuck the rest of you'.

Can you really not undertsand that if every parent who cba to queue did this then they wouldn't intact be 'empty 99% of the time'?

'I like how people are going, I'm disabled, fk the rest of you.' confused

It's more like 'I have a dc so fuck the rest of you

I agree

Not really, once the child is old enough to be talking properly (and isn't SEN) and will stay put, the you can used the normal loos as they can tell you if they are being kidnapped or if someone is stealing your stuff.

This is why mumsnet 'education' cipe out doesn't work, most people don't want to be educated.
It's been explain repeatedly why disabled toilwts should be for the disabled users who require them, but in response it's just "Mememememeeee"

The only. people who think this is educating anyone are the advertisers.

real struggle
Like what, a queue, having to remove a 9 month old from . pUsh chair, or shock horror adults with no disability having to hold it for a while?

It isn't. It's a disabled loos should be for disabled FIRST and then if there are other people who genuinely needs them, they have to wait and use them AFTER anyone disabled who wants them.

Many toilets you just cannot weald a baby in as even if you just have a rucksack on and no baby, you simply cannot close the cubicle door and you have to do a contortion act to do so.

So now having a FUCKING RUCKSACK ON is the same as being disabled.

Holy fuck.

How exactly would you know my child has a disability?

'It's a disabled loos should be for disabled FIRST and then if there are other people who genuinely needs them, they have to wait and use them AFTER anyone disabled who wants them'

So every mother who can't manage a pushchair rucksack or dc can use them if empty? imagine that, all the mothers using them taking ages I imagine if they are that helpless, while the disabled person who may have come along seconds after you sits patiently outside?

If you are selfish fine, can't change people. Just accept it say 'hey I'm selfish my needs come wayyyy before everyone else so tough'. Its the justification that is very tedious and unconvincing.

@mychilddoesntlookdisabled
No they're saying that having a rucksack on can prevent people from closing the doors in a toilet cubical, so carrying and manovering a baby in there is nigh on impossible.

I know people have dismissed this thread as goady but I've kept reading after I disagreed with some posters upthread and I can honestly say I will try my utmost to not use the disabled loo anymore, I never thought of myself as "entitled" (who does?) but I have been overly flippant about it and realise that now. So, sorry.

What she's saying is. I have a rucksack. A fucking RUCKSACK so it's hard for me to use the ordinary cubicle next thing will be so I can use the disabled.

Come on. Catch a grip. Take. The. Rucksack. Off. It's. It not hard.

Lamp that is so good to hear. 34 pages in if one person changes their behaviour its something.

Then please explain what someone like Sammylou1 should do then?

Given that the problem relates only to her local shopping centre which has separate baby changing facilities, there are a number of remedies during the relatively short time her babies will be in aa pushchair and the relatively short amount of time required to shop: e.g. do her shopping at a time when they can be left at home or with someone else, shop by mail order, and go to the loo before she goes out thus reducing the likelihood that she will need to go whilst out. In the final analysis, wait till the end cubicle is available, park the buggy outside and leave the door open.

No let just disabled go first and then being helpful to others who are really struggling.

So the real struggle of using a normal toilet is

A queue
Having to remove a 9 month old from a pushchair
Adults with no disability having to hold it for a while
A Rucksack...

Also a disabled toilet is perfect place to breastfeed.

You don't think for a moment that this is actually really struggling do you?

The toilets are there so people with disabilities can:

1: get wheelchairs in
2: have enough space for a carer
3: change pads in dignity
4: check feeding tubes and buttons

It's a dignified place for people to do this. While it's nothing in comparision to say, A rucksack or a queue, i'm sure you can speericate it's a struggle to do this in a normal toilet cubical.

And don't get me started on emptying catheters and the like. I'm sure your inability to wait for a wee is far far greater than a catheter leaking and causing not only embarrassment but also infection.