Non Binary / Gender Neutral

[MissBax]

Okay so I know this may spark some serious debate. I just want to say that I really don't want to offend ANYONE, however AIBU to say that the whole non Binary trend (for want of a better word) is getting abit out of hand??
If someone was born a man and chooses to transition to a woman or vice versa I understand that, but to say you don't identify as having a gender... I just don't understand it?! I am female but have never been girly - I didn't have dolls, I despise pink, and I always played football with the guys, climbed trees and was very sporty. But I'm still a girl. I know boys who didn't necessarily like "boyish" things but they're still boys. Any girl or boy can like anything they like.
Now we have "non binary" people who SAY they don't identify as one gender or the other, yet some of them are born female, wear make up and dresses. So following typically "girly" or "feminine" characteristics. Or those who have a sex change and THEN say they're non binary?! So then why have the sex change?!
AIBU to think this is just another way to ruffle people's feathers and possibly attention seeking?
(I wait in anticipation for being called ignorant and a biggot etc...)

There wasan actress interviewed on the Ellen show recently. Her identity was queer, non binary.

She just had short hair and normal clothes on (trousers, top) and her partner was a man. Not sure what is different sbout her and all the women who don't identify as any gender.

Only positive perhaps is that people are talking/ thinking about gender enforced roles/expectations and gitls might feel they don't have to be typically "girly/feminine" to be accepted.

Only positive perhaps is that people are talking/ thinking about gender enforced roles/expectations and gitls might feel they don't have to be typically "girly/feminine" to be accepted.

Yes, there is that, although currently that only applies to the special chosen few.

I can't really blame them. They've grown up being told by society that gender = personality, i.e. women are like x, men are like y. They've inverted it and said that personality = gender, i.e. x is like women, y is like men, added a bunch of new options and called it subversion.

Orlantina they act like that weird caricature of a woman that a some trans people seem to be aiming for. Long hair, long painted nails, dresses, heels, full make up etc all the time.

Spot on wankingMonkey truth is most of them were the middle class geeky types at school and they're just searching for their own individuality to rebel against the society they felt they didn't 'fit in' with.
I have a relative, who is married with 3 children never wears women's clothes doesn't pluck or shave, but is happy as larry just being herself.
None of us have to conform it's 2017.

The thing that annoys me most is when they talk about 'pronouns' 🙄

Actually I hadn't thought properly about pronouns. It sounds very nounist. Why should pronouns have the laudatory "pro" while other nouns have to go through life without and so feel lesser?

I may have missed something but as a child, I was never told girls do, x boys do y, apart from in terms of actual biology I never really saw a difference.

None of us girls were forced to play with dolls and wear pink we were just told we could do what we wanted.

This is probably why I can't get worked up about stuff like this, let people be who they will be but just don't force it down anyone's neck, it's not needed. Really in this day and age the only time this wil be an issue is places like public toilets or prisons.

It's a load of old crap and having a DD who has short hair, plays football, skateboards and never wears dresses I hope to god that she never gets to the point where she feels she has to declare herself non binary. She's a very cool, individual girl who is totally confident in her own skin and I hope that nothing comes along to make her question that. I have very serious concerns that anything other than being "girlie" is unacceptabe and leads to these non binary declarations. For those who are genuinely transgender, I have absolute sympathy for their predicament but the trend for anything seemingly non conforming to have to be trans or non binary is extremely concerning

'Intergender'
'Neutrois'
Did someone get paid to invent this stuff or was it an altruistic contribution to society?

I agree with the perspn up thread who said this stuff is messing up our kids' heads. As well as being deeply messed up it is also massively attention seeking.

Those 2 on this morning were really funny though, I can't believe I'm saying this but Pierce is right. If your going down the 'how I identify' route it can't stop at gender. It should also go for race as that is asp something we are all born with. 'I was assigned white, British girl' at birth

Stick 'tis true are birth I was assigned mixed - white British and black Caribbean/British and it's been a pain to put down on forms my whole life (box is too damn small). I identify as Grey but I don't thing I'd get away with putting that down on the census.

I really struggled as a child tbh my parents were quite traditional girls dont climb trees or play with cars or watch starwars girls are pretty with dresses and dolls and teasets which i also didn't mind playing with my same age boy cousin had much better toys and my stepdad especially used tò have a go at me playing with them. So when i had my own girls i tried to let them develop their own personality and intersts , stepdad still was an arse when dd1 got cars and a garage for her 3rd christmas

Identify as grey

It's Bollocks I have 4 kids and all are totally different. One dd loved makeup and plays rugby while the other loves animals, netball and can't be arsed with makeup.

One ds is a family man and very domesticated and built like a brick shit house while other ds loves books and football.

They all cook.

Who cares. Just attention seeking nonsense

Yes step dad is an arse

What pleasure and satisfaction do you lot get from being so hateful? So hurtful? What the hell is wrong with you that you genuinely think it is alright to be so unpleasant, so dismissive, so sneering? I genuinely don't understand why you think it is OK to be like this.

Re otherkin. This is a genuine post on tumblr

QuimJongUn That has got to be satire!

What pleasure and satisfaction do you lot get from being so hateful? So hurtful? What the hell is wrong with you that you genuinely think it is alright to be so unpleasant, so dismissive, so sneering? I genuinely don't understand why you think it is OK to be like this

And I don't understand why people are made to feel like the worst kind of ignorant, thick bigots because they fundamentally disagree with those reinforcing harmful, hackneyed gender stereotypes. In the name of doing just the opposite, too.

I will warn you, older - if you identify as grey, there is such thing already as greysexual ...

Rosemary apparently not. There's thousands of posts like that in tumblr. DD has met people in real life who claim to be 'wolfkin' and 'foxkin'. They really, truly believe they've been born the wrong species.

olderthanyouthink amazing! I think you should start a campaign!

Quim

a sea cucumber ?! Is this a joke?

I mean. Why? That's so... What? I mean, I don't know what I'd do if DD ever said that to me. Try to find her a good therapist, I suppose?

That person wants to be that?
I have eaten sea cucumber (at least I was told that that's what it is...). But why would somebody be see a sea cucumber and think, yup, that's me.

It's probably a joke. But conceivably it's not. These days it's often not possible to distinguish between purported reality and satire. Surely that alone suggests there's a problem.