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AIBU?

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to feel very uncomfortable with neighbour's drone filming habits?

133 replies

WelliesAndPyjamas · 16/05/2017 07:45

We have relatively new neighbours - moved in to rental house next door less than a year ago, husband and wife, about 50 yrs old, work long hours, he works shifts, quiet and friendly enough. All fine and we were relieved that they turned out to be nice because let's face it, it is always a gamble with new neighbours (we lived next to a nasty one many years ago and the experience was horrid and unforgettable).

The new neighbour (the man) is a hobby wildlife photographer and has a Facebook page, which he invited me to follow, and I do because he is nice and his photos are lovely. He has recently bought a drone that can film in very high quality and travel very long distances. He put his first bit of footage on his facebook page. It filmed from his garden out over the fields behind our houses and back, showing our house and back garden very clearly. That made me feel a bit weird, because we like our privacy, and suddenly random people on social media got a view of a bit of our lives, you know?

Since then he has been using it out the back, presumably practicing with it. We have seen it flying around in the field behind our houses. A couple of evenings ago we were having our usual coffee in the conservatory and the drone was hovering at and then flying past the very end of our garden. We obviously don't know whether he was capturing us (sat in our window) in that footage but it felt uncomfortable because, as said above, we like being private and don't like feeling like we are now potentially on display as we do our normal private things at home.

We haven't mentioned either thing to him because it is awkward. We and easygoing, avoid conflict, and good neighbourly relations make a big difference to having a happy life! 😄 Yes, that makes us sound like saps but it is just that we have reached that stage in life where we can't be doing with other people's nonsense 😄

This morning, though, I have felt quite upset by the drone thing. I got up at 6 and went out in my dressing gown to let the chickens out, as usual, and found that the drone was directly above the middle of our garden!! I stood there staring at it until it flew away and he landed it next door, so am guessing he could see me on his display screen. AIBU to feel intruded upon? I do not want to have to make sure I am decent just to walk through the back of my house (windows at the back have no blinds and are not overlooked by anyone). We have 3 kids, two of whom are still young enough to happily wander around the house and garden partially clothed, and in the summer often wander around naked. We really like living in a house and location where we are not overlooked, not because we do anything weird or illegal 😄 but because we are just private people. This situation is very uncomfortable. Am still pondering what to do about it, whether to go talk to him about how it feels, or post a message to him throgh his facebook page the coward's option or what? I believe what he is doing is not within the bounds of the law because he is 'filming a person within 50 metres without consent'.

Don't need this crap. And I know some of the other neighbours, who are also having their back gardens captured on film, would not react so passively.

Any thoughts on handling this sensibly? I don't think I should write FUCK OFF in white stones on my lawn, not yet anyway!

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TenForward82 · 16/06/2017 16:18

I should add that, being the cynic I am, I don't buy this loveable bumbling oh-good-gracious new toy excitement act he's putting on. He lost me when he had it hovering IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR GARDEN!

Harvestwidow · 16/06/2017 16:43

Mary I love how he threw his cap to the floor in the first clip!

kwick · 16/06/2017 18:08

Am lovin this thread...

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 16/06/2017 18:24

I don't think your update is quite the victory you think it is. Confused

It's time to be firm with him (though I'm sure your breasts are very firm!) and tell him not to film your property or you'll seek legal advice.

JaneEyre70 · 16/06/2017 18:39

OMG I'm slightly aghast at the topless appearance....you may have opened up a right can of worms there OP Shock. Let's hope he's just uploading to FB and nothing else................

VeryButchyRestingFace · 16/06/2017 18:51

He sounds like a big, perverted baby with no sense of boundaries to me.

Just googled the price of these drone things. Some people have too much 💰.

Pumperthepumper · 16/06/2017 19:15

Why did you do that? Seems really weird to complain about the lack of privacy when he's filming your house, yet totally expose yourself on purpose. Very childish, and more than a bit strange.

BengalGal · 16/06/2017 19:18

She thought it would freak him out and keep him away. It might work. Or it might give him ideas...

WelliesAndPyjamas · 16/06/2017 19:26

It's ok, I understand that not everyone finds it ok, but as I said upthread, I am fine with it. It isn't the first time I have been topless in the garden (what with it being private and all) because I like sunbathing like that on the very rare occasions that I have time and it is sunny enough! Might be showing my age a bit there

Also my children run around the house (no window nets on back of house) and garden naked or partially clothed. My body is mine to do as I like with but no one should take away their freedom to behave as they feel comfortable in their own home, right?

I'm a grown adult (with saggy boobs and a big belly) who will deal with the consequences of my own (legal) actions 🙂 I am not a grown adult blatantly and illegaly infringing on their neighbours' privacy.

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LilQueenie · 16/06/2017 19:29

you are constantly on film on cctv and web cams when out anyway but most dont realise it. type your local area into youtube and you may be surprised how much of it is on film.

FaFoutis · 16/06/2017 19:30

I understand why you did it OP. There can be no question that he is crossing a line if your top is off.

notknownatthisaddress · 16/06/2017 19:34

YANBU.

This man might seem 'nice' but it sounds like he's a bit of a perve to me.

Why the fuck is he filming over the back gardens? (Including yours,) and in through windows??? Why is he not just filming over the woods and trees etc?

Sounds weird and is VERY inappropriate. I think I would have a word with his wife.

MyPatronusIsAUnicorn · 16/06/2017 19:40

My grandad has recently got a drone. He has read the rules and adheres to them. It isn't rocket science. He doesn't go anywhere near the neighbours gardens or the field at the back, I don't think you are allowed over a field if it is within a certain distance of gardens. There are a lot of rules. Your twat neighbour needs to go out to somewhere remote and empty (think you aren't allowed to film people either). He has been told politely. I guess it's time to tell him a bit more firmly.

WelliesAndPyjamas · 16/06/2017 19:42

I know why he has the drone, it is to do with his hobby, for which he has a facebook page. I don't want to go in to any identifiable detail online, as I'm aure you'll understand, but it is respectable and genuine 👍 He says the local flights are practice runs, to help him learn to control it etc, which in fine in theory but in practice he is bumbling along, not thinking about how people around him feel.

Of course, he could be an utter pervy perve too, and in the unlikely event that he gets a kick out of his recent footage, then it would be a shame but so be it, I suppose. It doesn't make me hate myself or feel threatened. My private garden, my day off in the sun, my swinging boobs!

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StrangeLookingParasite · 16/06/2017 19:43

The neighbour was apologetic and basically a bit naive, i.e. hadn't thought beyond the joy of playing with the drone! It sounds like the guy had genuienly never thought through any of the repurcussions of what he was doing.

How much of a fucking idiot is he?

WelliesAndPyjamas · 16/06/2017 19:45

Yeah, he doesn't across as that bright, but hidden depths and all that 😬

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WelliesAndPyjamas · 16/06/2017 19:46

*come across

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kwick · 17/06/2017 05:29

swinging boobs
I am in such admiration [grin]@WelliesAndPyjamas - it is your garden, your time, your boobage!!! I would have probably started swearing at the drone or throwing stuff at it. Having your privacy invaded like that is just unacceptable!!!

LadyPenelope67 · 17/06/2017 05:59

Time to tell this idiot straight imo. 'Please don't fly your drone over my back garden, I find it intrusive. Thank you'
That's it. Perfectly polite and reasonable. Try not to punch him in the face while you're saying it though Grin

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 17/06/2017 10:52

Sounds like another - more direct - conversation is required. Is it worth drafting in a couple of the neighbours as well, for strength in numbers so that he realises that it's not just you who is getting pissed off?

I'd be asking him not to use the drone in the street or gardens at all, because it is infringing on your privacy and you are not comfortable about his repeated insistence on filming other people's private gardens - which is an infringement of the rules. I would also warn him that you don't want to fall out, but that if he continues to do this then you'll complain to his landlord and also to the Police.

kwick · 18/06/2017 07:52

In related news: my neighbour accidentally dropped some clothes from his bedroom window on to my terrace (directly below) and as I did not answer the door, he climbed down to retrieve!!!! Flipping cheek - I have spoken to him but he just does not get it. Bigger concerns than this though as Police keep coming round trying to find him.....Confused

WelliesAndPyjamas · 19/06/2017 11:41

FFS, kwick, what is wrong with some people 🤔 No boundaries, no understanding of social etiquette, or just no brain cells?! Hope he is more careful with his clothes in future but less careful at police evasion

No further privacy invasion here since the boob shocker. Fingers crossed it stays that way. I have heard, through the fence, his wife getting very irritated with his lack of participation in adult life (making dinner, tidying up, etc), which says it all, really! 😄

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Maman79 · 19/06/2017 13:11

Contact the CAA for advice www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Unmanned-aircraft-and-drones/

If he is selling the photos, then he will need a commercial licence www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Unmanned-aircraft-and-drones/

Maman79 · 19/06/2017 13:21

Get the CAA to write him a polite email, he may fly elsewhere if he is on their radar, so to speak Grin

ohfourfoxache · 19/06/2017 13:33

Hopefully he's sufficiently embarrassed now to stop being so inconsiderate