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AIBU?

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No AIBU - Ian Brady is dead.

273 replies

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 15/05/2017 21:58

Good.

That is all.

OP posts:
kaytee87 · 16/05/2017 09:46

Those poor parents never knowing where their baby's bodies are. It breaks my heart, can't imagine the pain they felt / feel.

I hope he has no peace in death, vile bastard.

HappyFlappy · 16/05/2017 10:28

Joystir59

Amen to all of that.

Those beautiful children are the ones who need to be remembered.

CoolCarrie · 16/05/2017 11:12

Well put Joystir 59

Funnyfarmer · 16/05/2017 11:22

Im not glad he's dead. I wasn't glad when he was alive either. I feel nothing towards him.
I feel for victims families. Even more so today.
I've had the pleasure of meeting Keith's mother a few times. I live very close to where the horrific crimes took place.
The surrounding communities have held several fund raising events for her course.

In fact hopefully the news will spark up more local fundraisers as we remember those who suffered

Clawdy · 16/05/2017 11:38

DH's uncle was a policeman involved in their arrest. He refused to ever discuss the details of the tape recordings, but said that hardened policemen were vomiting in the toilets after listening to them.

shesnotme · 16/05/2017 11:39

Read this last night. Excellent.

iogo · 16/05/2017 11:44

Only 2 people have mentioned it on my Facebook. That man is nothing.

Remembering their victims and I hope, one day, Keith Bennett is found.

Ceto · 16/05/2017 12:27

I don't believe he knew where Keith Bennett was buried sufficiently to be able to identify the place or guide others to it. The moors are vast, and the terrain changes significantly over time. However, he obviously liked leading people to believe he might know and was holding the information back.

Blaaaaaaaah · 16/05/2017 12:40

Ceto, I think he knew because he was meticulous about recording the grave sites in his own personal coded way. They have discovered that many of the other graves were recorded photographically or in other ways but in a way that can't really be decoded. It became obvious when the graves were found that particular photographs etc were records, but it wasn't done in such a way it could ever have been used to find them without knowledge they were there. They also used to return to the burial sites frequently after the event so I doubt he didn't know.

I've always suspected that he and Myra knew full well where he was, but that there is something or somebody else at the same location they didn't want discovered as it linked them to further acts, or possibly even implicated more people.

WorshipTheGourd · 16/05/2017 12:48

Pauline Reade Flowers
John Kilbride Flowers
Keith Bennett Flowers
Lesley Ann Downey Flowers
Edward Evans Flowers

I have no words for the 'person' who killed them and then abused their families for so many years. If there is a hell, he will be there, surely?

Ruby2202 · 16/05/2017 13:12

When I first heard I thought what waste of money keeping that monster alive and they should have let him die or hung him. However, now I ve read more about the case and this thread I am glad he lost all his appeals to be allowed to die and was tube fed when he went on hunger strike. He shouldn't have been allowed to die how he wanted to. It was right that he should suffer in prison for years and years without the easy way out and dying or taking his own life.

Sunnymeg · 16/05/2017 13:13

A lot of the details of the murders have never been released into the public domain, as they are too horrific for the public to know about. Bearing in mind the transcript that has been released, what happened to those poor children is probably totally unimaginable by sane, right minded people. I really hope they dissect his brain to find out what was going on in it. I too know about the carol that was played and hearing it always makes me think of Lesley Ann's suffering.

PortiaCastis · 16/05/2017 13:22

The poor Parents how traumatised they were and their families still are.
That evil bastard doesn't deserve all the attention.

newideas · 16/05/2017 14:17

I can't stop thinking about this today with so much sadness for the poor families, people who just had the misfortune to be born in the same area and lived at the same time as that awful man Sad.

whereas · 16/05/2017 14:48

He was mentally ill, as are many people who live normal lives. Where do we draw the line?
He had psychopathic disorder. I think we're all aware of that.

I don't blame people for some of the strong reactions, given the emotive subject matter. The number of children killed, and the way in which they were killed and tortured, combined with one child's body still missing and the killer refusing to cooperate.

I lived not far from Saddleworth, and knew of friends of friends who were connected to the victims families, but I don't think you need that, or any, connection to be affected by such notorious and heinous crimes.

I'm glad they avoided the death penalty, and Brady wasn't allowed to die during his hunger strikes. It didn't sound like he/they enjoyed their time in captivity, far from it.

Goingtobeawesome · 16/05/2017 14:54

I cried when I heard as I immediately thought about the five children killed. I was born in 1972 but have always known about this. It's so sad that Winnie died without being able to give her son a burial but other family members are hopeful. It's heartening that the police have said they'll never close the case.

freshmilktoday · 16/05/2017 15:29

He seemed scarily articulate and well read. Why just why does someone end up carrying out those kind of atrocities?

ilovesprouts · 16/05/2017 15:41

Chuck him in the sea with saddam mind you the fish will be jumping out hope he rots in hell for ever AngryAngryAngryAngry

ilovesprouts · 16/05/2017 15:44

Sorry I meant bin laden

CaveMum · 16/05/2017 16:27

There's an interesting article on the BBC website written by a journalist who exchanged letters with Brady for 30-odd years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39925965T

Also further news that the coroner is refusing to release his body until given assurances that his ashes will not be scattered on Saddleworth Moor. The suggestion is that he made a dying request to do so to his solicitor. One last act designed to torment the families.

ollieplimsoles · 16/05/2017 16:38

He's a waste of human matter.

I'm also glad both he and her avoided the death penalty and rotted in prison, despite their repeated attempts to get out, he absolutely cannot be scattered on saddleworth moore.

The control he tries to exhibit even in death...

1pink4blue · 16/05/2017 16:46

Good, hopefully he is rotting in hell with Myra.
What they did to those poor children was nothing but poor evil and letting those poor families suffer not knowing where they put the childrens bodies was awful.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 16/05/2017 16:47

No what makes me better than people like Brady is the fact I don't torture and kill children

THIS exactly THIS!

There are always very odd ones that will come out out with utter shit like, ooh but that makes us just as bad. NO it bloody doesn't. After everything he and that evil bitch did, no it doesn't. Ridiculous.

I was very pleased he has finally died and I hope there was suffering and pain, just as their victims went through. Such a shame they just missed being executed. All that money that it cost to keep that vermin alive. That could have been spent on far better things. Those poor children. Their poor parents. Snatched, tortured and murdered. Dogooders, save your sympathy for them.

UrsulaPandress · 16/05/2017 17:01

Dear god the evil of the man to want his ashes scattering on the moor. 😱

Mulledwine1 · 16/05/2017 17:04

I read today (on the Times website?) that they struggled to find an undertaker to handle Myra Hindley's cremation. I suspect the same will be true for Brady.

I am glad they that despite many do-gooding attempts to get Hindley released, they both died in jail/captivity.

Their crimes have haunted us so much, even though most of us were born afterwards.

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