Corbyn and IRA

[TheGentleMoose]

AIBU to ask that someone please explain how he is allowed to lead a party after this?

"It can be disclosed that for seven years running, while the IRA “armed struggle” was at its height, Mr Corbyn attended and spoke at official republican commemorations to honour dead IRA terrorists, IRA “prisoners of war” and the active “soldiers of the IRA.”

The official programme for the 1988 event, held one week after the IRA murdered three British servicemen in the Netherlands, states that “force of arms is the only method capable of bringing about a free and united Socialist Ireland.” Mr Corbyn used the event to attack the Anglo-Irish Agreement, the precursor of the peace process."

Taken from a Telegraph article. I was unaware his support of the IRA was this involved until this morning.

So the NI unionists are the benchmark by which we measure JC. He's supposed to be a progressive socialist future leader not an arse wipe poser.

So the NI unionists are the benchmark by which we measure JC. He's supposed to be a progressive socialist future leader not an arse wipe poser.

Not at all, I'm just pointing out the vacuity of the "Corbyn opposed the AIA ergo he's an enemy of the peace process" line.

I found this interesting and it was written by a Labour Party member [and labour party researcher]

labour-uncut.co.uk/2015/08/07/the-idea-that-jeremy-corbyn-laid-the-foundations-for-peace-in-northern-ireland-is-total-fantasy/

Thanks to all who have shared links, thoughts, opinions, etc. Really appreciate it.

Should say - I found the comments interesting in that article too.

He's a poser. He is against whatever the majority is in favour of. At least the unionists were acting on their principles- odious as they might be.

Are we getting rattled Tory HQ - getting stooges to post on MN?

How dare people disagree with you hey.

Do you have shares in tin foil hats?

Interested in the security of the people of the UK or whatever shit he came out with the other day? My arse!

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the agreement and spoke in Parliament against it:

“Does the hon. Gentleman accept that some of us oppose the agreement for reasons other than those that he has given? We believe that the agreement strengthens rather than weakens the border between the six and the 26 counties, and those of us who wish to see a United Ireland oppose the agreement for that reason.”

This thread highlights how bad British education is on what really happened during the occupation of Ireland.

I would know ... Being Irish and all.

@fueledbybacon Not everyone on Mumsnet had a British education though.

Not disagreeing with you, just saying that perhaps people should realise that educational backgrounds aren't all British.

@TheGentleMoose obviously not as neither did I but those that did are clearly identifiable.

It's not just British btw. Portuguese, Dutch, French are not taught in schools about the raw truth of invading another country. It's all about the glory of the empire etc. Have seen the school books myself.

@fueledbybacon Agree, the view of Invasion = Glory needs to definitely change.

fueledbybacon you can tell by what people have written on a MN thread where they are from and what education they had?

My Mum is Irish and even though I was educated in Britain in the 70s, I don't recall ever being taught that invasion and colonialism was somehow "glorious ". My dd is certainly not taught it now, either.

It was the Anglo-Irish Agreement (1985) that Corbyn didn't agree with, not the Good Friday agreement and it is that debate that your quote is from Moose:

hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1985/nov/27/anglo-irish-agreement

@jellyfrizz Apologies, my mistake - I misread.

Thatcher later agreed that people were right to have opposed the Anglo-Irish Agreement and expressed regret at having signed it:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/220053.stm

I have said my bit about Corbyn already, but Elendon's branding of 'bog off' as 'racist' really does prove that people are determined to be offended by anything!

''People should be aware that making false claims about a candidate’s personal character and conduct is an electoral offence, as well as being defamatory.”
Tory chairman Patrick McLoughlin

DJBaggySmalls in that case most PPC in all elections could well be in trouble.

Does anyone have any good information sources that share why Labour won't stand in Northern Ireland please?

Yadnbu, I've known about this for a long time, it hasn't just been "dug up" - it was widely reported when he was first mooted as Labour leader. He and McDonnell are terrorist sympathisers imo, it's a red line for me.

Both the UK Labour Party and the Irish Labour Party have a coalition with the SDLP in NI. There's an agreement that neither national Labour Party will run within NI.

Planbatman is correct. Not in NI but it is a shame to me that Sinn Fein muscled out SDLP.

People who think linking Corbyn to the IRA is just right wing Corbyn bashing need to do some reading up on it.
If Jezza was such an NI peace maker he would have been "talking to" the UVF in an attempt to broker peace. But that wouldn't have been as "good" a pose as sucking up to Gerry Adams.