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AIBU wondering what the Tory-haters have to say

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ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 11:14

As the impartial CPS will not be charging any candidates for alleged electoral fraud, yet this was what many said was the reason for May's calling an election.

I always thought that the election was for a strong mandate going into the negotiations with Brussels. I assume that everyone must now.

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Tanith · 10/05/2017 14:11

I've always thought it was so she could lose the expensive promises that they bribed the Electorate with in 2015.

You know: the ones they didn't cost properly and can't afford.

TheSultanofPingu · 10/05/2017 14:14

I still hate them.

FanjoForTheMammaries · 10/05/2017 14:17

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alltouchedout · 10/05/2017 14:18

I always thought that the election was for a strong mandate going into the negotiations with Brussels. I assume that everyone must now.

You assume wrongly, then.

DJBaggySmalls · 10/05/2017 14:18

Squoosh explained the situation. I dont see any need to keep on repeating her answer.

They were found guilty and fined. That result could not have been predicted last week.

ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 14:19

@FanjoForTheMammaries

Nope

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Somerville · 10/05/2017 14:20

You began the pedantry. I said I found it hard to read sentences with a full stop after every word.

Confused I had nothing to do with the conversation about full stops after each word - or indeed about anything else grammar related.

Political threads in AIBU are generally either goady and intended to rile, or an impassioned attempt at raising awareness of an issue a MN is experiencing. The tone of yours smacks of the former, though I could be wrong of course.

I told you why I've (very recently - I'm a floating voter who has voted Tory before) come to hate the Conservative party. Do you know about the changes they've made to bereavement benefits (particularly WPA)? And the new information that has recently come to light about how bereavement benefits and UC? It is badly affecting friends of mine, and would have severely affected me and my children if it had been brought in a few years earlier. I'd have lost my home, for starters.

I know you want to just engage about the electoral fraud, and if you post a thread with that in the title in the politics board you will probably be able to. But here in AIBU, with this current title, you will continue to encounter people like me who have become recent 'haters' for (a myriad) of other reasons.

Somerville · 10/05/2017 14:22

...about how bereavement benefits and UC will interplay? that should have been.

ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 14:27

I don't have any kind of issue encountering people like you Somerville. Threads of any sort rarely end up discussing what was initially posted and that's just the way conversations go.

I'm not sure what tone you think there is. If you think it's goady stay off, but I'd far rather read a slightly off topic post like yours than one which says it is goady and nothing else of any substance.

Noticeably, the thread-creators of 'reasons not to vote conservative' or similar are called goady.

I wonder if you political ideas are turning into a bias, looking to simply not engage or listen to others whos ideas aren't exactly aligned with yours.

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FanjoForTheMammaries · 10/05/2017 14:30

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ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 14:39

FanjoForTheMammaries

So, you say that I called others a chump first and then accuse me of lying.

I think an apology would be fair.

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squishysquirmy · 10/05/2017 14:43

Interesting user name, OP.
Either you have just joined mumsnet to start threads extolling the brilliance of the Conservatives,
or you name changed in order to start threads extolling the brilliance of the Conservatives - which would make you not that proud of it.

Somerville · 10/05/2017 14:44

I wonder if you political ideas are turning into a bias, looking to simply not engage or listen to others whos ideas aren't exactly aligned with yours.
Was that still to me? If so, I assure you that your concern is misplaced. I haven't even decided for whom to vote yet. It won't be Tory, not because of entrenched political ideas or not listening, but because of my recent experiences and observations while my husband was ill and after he died.

ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 14:50

It was still to you Somerville. You think a thread is goady if from a (mostly) Conservative voter and I pointed out that other threads supporting Labour weren't called goady.

@SquishySquirmy

I'm not a new user although NC so frequently that I'm pretty unidentifiable. I wonder where you got your idea from. Using anonymity on the internet doesn't suggest a lack of pride. Is your family name really Squirmy, first name Squishy?

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Somerville · 10/05/2017 14:53

Loads of threads by Labour supporters are, and are called, goady!

squishysquirmy · 10/05/2017 14:56

I wasn't making a point about anonymity - just that if I name changed to "marmite lover", specifically to make posts about how great marmite is, it might look like either I didn't want my love of marmite to be linked to my usual username, or that evangelising about marmite was a major part of my identity,

Orlantina · 10/05/2017 15:00

A vote for the Conservatives SHOULD NOT be interpreted as a vote for her form of Brexit and should not be used by her to say that a lot of people support her.

There are plenty of things each party wants to do that I agree with.
Some aspects of the Tories.
Some aspects of Labour
Some aspects of Liberals
Some aspects of the Green party.

A vote for any of those parties does not mean that I support all their policies.

But Theresa May will say that a vote for her is a mandate for all her policies.

Valentine2 · 10/05/2017 15:01

Anyone should be embarrassed to call themselves Christian although I can see that if you hate someone it could be a useful insult.

You really are very very annoying, aren't you op? Here, calm down dear and take a Biscuit.
Hands off somerville essentially.

FanjoForTheMammaries · 10/05/2017 15:03

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ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 15:05

At the moment, politics is a large part of my 'identity' and I've rarely felt as strongly as I do now that TM needs to win the election.

I'd have chosen ProudLabour had MN been around in '97.

I don't have a usual username. I change about once a week. It lets me give a little more detail about me personally when necessary without 'outing' myself.

Valentine

Not sure why you're so personal.

Here, calm down dear and take a Biscuit

Thanks for the wafer.

Amen

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Valentine2 · 10/05/2017 15:09

I quoted your words to you. You are very offensive and haven't apologised. somerville said what she said because of a deeply personal experience.
You want to win votes, you talk nicely to people who have suffered.

Orlantina · 10/05/2017 15:10

as I do now that TM needs to win the election

So schools can have less funding, schools can have education cuts - but yet, rather than focus on that, she wants to build more grammar schools which won't benefit most of the ordinary, working families she claims to want to help.

She will win though. Because we have a crap opposition. And she will continue not to give a flying fuck about the education system.

ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 15:11

Valentine2

Please go away. You don't appear to have anything of substance contribute.

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squishysquirmy · 10/05/2017 15:12

Orlantina: She will win, but what I am hoping (probably in vain) is that she doesn't get her ginormous majority.

ProudConservative · 10/05/2017 15:12

We were talking about May and her religion yet you don't seem to understand that.

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