The BBC are absolutely insensitive knob heads?

[plastique]

Just watching the BBC 2 programme The Instant Gardener and I'm feeling slightly sick but very angry.
The lovely couple having a garden makeover have had 2 rounds of failed IVF, have decided to take a year off to gather themselves. People having deal with infertility know what I mean....BUT the TV presenter is obviously pregnant, hiding it with a flimsy scarf doesn't quite work!! How the hell did that amazing couple deal with that, feeling very sad for them at the moment

Sometimes I think it maybe the pregnant woman that feels awkward? This certainly happened to me. I had mmc and the lady that scanned me and talked me through my options was very pregnant. She had a huge scarf over her bump.

It's sad that anyone has to feel uncomfortable, I certainly wouldn't want anyone to.

And when you were pregnant with your three children did you still go to work OP?, did you still go out?

give the OP a break, its nice that's shes sensitive to this although I agree, life goes on-you hide the sadness inside.

This is definitely your issue not the couple's, you're imposing it on them.

And the idea of turning off a gardening show is ridiculous, but feeling sick and angry because there's a pregnant woman within eyesight of someone within fertility issues?

Switch off?? I love this programme, why would I not watch it?

Er ....because you said you felt the whole programme feeling sick?

Ridiculously precious and overly sensitive.

Monkey - it's ok to be sensitive - i think people are reacting more to the anger. It's not poor Helen Skelton's fault.

plastique the time between this couple applying to be on the show and it being filmed would be months.
It is likely the presenter wasn't pregnant or was only just pregnant when it was in its initial planning stages.

When I had a camera crew and presenters in my house I didn't ask if any of them had children. I assumed they probably would have and it didn't upset me. Me losing a child doesn't mean everyone else has to pretend theirs don't exist.

If someone with infertility finds pregnancy and babies upsetting I understand and wouldn't judge them as 'over sensitive'. Their pain is always going to be valid.
I wouldn't take it on myself to be furious on their behalf though. That is just odd.

Gregoriesgirl, I agree I'm also happy for Helen to be pregnant and every other pregnant lady too!

Just make sure they keep themselves hidden from the view of anyone unable to get pregnant?

WowserBowser I agree, I just found some of the comments veered toward saying women with fertility problems almost aren't allowed to be upset by pregnant women.

I'm sure Helen Skelton has just had her baby

Wow Figaro I'm so sorry

Monkeypuzzle32

There is a massive difference between accepting that you are upset by something (when that thing is outside of the other person's control) and demanding that that change their behaviour or leave to avoid your being upset.

Like the title says 'AIBU The BBC are insensitive knob heads?
This does NOT mean
Helen needs to be fired
Helen should be replaced
Helen should not be pregnant
Couple were forced into the programme
Couple were unhappy for Helen!

This does mean IMO that:

BBC have taken on board that this could be a sensitive subject for both the couple and viewer, therefor have decided to conceal it bizarrely with odd camera angles and flimsy scarf! (Like on Eastenders when a pregnancy is not in the story line)
There are many presenters including Helen that wear ultra tight/ body con dresses (as I did too).

I felt a deep sadness at watching the fertile presenter and non fertile couple. I am super sensitive to infertility, I've been there, but are on the other side now with 3 dc. My best friend from childhood has 'unexplained' infertility. They already have had dc from previous relationships.

I've been called an over thinker many and cry at most things

I don't think 'over thinker' is quite right here, OP...

So you mean the BBC are 'knob heads' because the presenter wore a scarf and the camera didn't focus on her bump?

You just sound like you are having a trantrum now OP.

In answer to your somewhat bizarre question, no the BBC are not knob heads. I'm sorry you suffered from infertility in the past, but I think someone harping on about how sick they feel about infertility watching a gardening programme when they already have 3 DC, which they dripfed after other infertile women started to commiserate on their thread is far more 'knob head' behaviour than having a pregnant presenter on a gardening programme.

Don't you get it. If they had not employed Helen Skelton, that would have been pregnancy discrimination, and Helen, just like every other pregnant woman, is protected under all kinds of laws and it is illegal to discriminate her on the grounds of her pregnancy. Effectively, you want her sacked because she is pregnant and the BBC are "insensitive knobheads" because they didn't sack her and find someone else, since she was pregnant. That would be illegal and the BBC would rightly be held to account if they had done that.

I think you're being offensive to the couple on the programme, OP.

Ooh, I know the owner of the garden centre. She is lovely.

(Misses point of thread as well)

Surely HS would have been employed long before this programme was filmed?
Its a scheduled, recorded series.
So wouldn't the presenter have been auditioned and employed at the beginning of the series?
That would mean dropping her in the middle of filming once they realised she was visibly pregnant.
Then bringing her back for the next session.

I am pretty sure the couple in question would have found that quite insulting once they watched the completed shows.
Epi 1 HS, Epi 2, HS, Epi 3 HS, Epi 4 Danny Dyer, Epi5 HS, Epi 6 HS.