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To wish the EU would stop being so arsey with us!

377 replies

GreatAuntPrudish · 04/05/2017 08:26

Juncker is an utter prick - leaking details of the dinner at No.10.
Then there's Barnier, Hollande and other EU officials warning us how ugly it's going to get.

Poland and France wanting to extract every last billion out of us!

They're playing into May's hands - giving her the opportunity to look like the Boudicca of the 21st century when she is actually an utterly useless PM.

I wish they'd show some consideration for the 48%

I'm a Remainer - still want to stay in EU - but it's starting to piss me off so there's little chance the leavers who were starting to wobble will want to stay now.

The Daily Mail are relishing it Angry

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MephistophelesApprentice · 04/05/2017 08:34

The key thing to remember here is that the EUs first priority is the EU, then the governments of the members, then the citizens of the members. They do NOT have our best interests at heart (which is fair enough, as we're not EU members any more). They actively want the UK to collapse so none else will leave and they will try and arrange things so that this is so.

They are quite happy to abandon the 48% - they want the 100% to suffer!

nakedandconcerned · 04/05/2017 08:35

What do you honestly expect from them?

AfunaMbatata · 04/05/2017 08:37

Lol! Why would they care about us? We only have ourselves to blame for this shit tip of a fuck up.

makeourfuture · 04/05/2017 08:37

They did not start this.

Imbroglio · 04/05/2017 08:39

Seriously?

Did you think they would be interested in helpimg May get a bigger mandate for her hard Brexit?

MrsWrex · 04/05/2017 08:39

I'm feeling quite the same way.

I voted remain but the EU's willingness to throw the 48% under the big red bus has surprised me.

I'm feeling very ambivalent about it now. They are all as petty as each other. Let them get on with it.

I'd change my vote if there was a rerun I think.

Huldra · 04/05/2017 08:40

Game playing on all sides, May hasn't been any better.

Sandsnake · 04/05/2017 08:40

I'm an ardent Remainer. Look at it from the EU's point of view - a flourishing Britain post-Brexit could be catastrophic for its future. And a Europe without the EU in some form would be pretty catastrophic for all of us (in my opinion). They metaphorically want our heads on spikes as a warning to the electorates of other potentially itchy-footed members.

The trouble with these negotiations is that the interests of each party are pretty much diametrically opposed.

MakingMerry · 04/05/2017 08:41

I'm not sure what else people expected. They didn't want the UK to leave; two days after the announcement is made some MP starts spouting off about going to war with Spain over Gibraltar. We can't complain we're being bullied here - we started it.

makeourfuture · 04/05/2017 08:42

Tory incompetence. Yet again

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/05/2017 08:42

Arsey? I think May set the tone when she threatened to withdraw cooperation over security in her withdrawal letter.

As PPs have said the EU are working in the best interests of their citizens, which does not include us.

And the EU has always said that it will be open about the negotiations - it is May who has wanted the entire negotiations to be cloaked in secrecy.

And of course we should pay what we owe - if we don't other countries will have to pick up the tab, so do course they will make sure we pay.

Nothing the EU has said or done is surprising, or a punishment, it is the logical and inevitable consequence of our withdrawal. It's about time our government realises that they are currently steering us toward the hardest Brexit possible and making enemies along the way.

theBaldSoprano · 04/05/2017 08:42

What do you expect them to do?

Brexit has put European national in a very shitty position, we are likely to lose a lot, or be financially unable to stay here but to go back to our own country. Things change, shit happens, but a lot of us would not have settled here if we had known. If I move to Australia, at least I know the rules.
Your country has still not guaranteed or explained what will happen to us, re NHS, pension, tax and so on. You are not showing a lot of good will.

If I have to relocate my life, my business, my BRITISH CITIZEN children because I can't stay, well.. not much sympathy I am afraid.

pasturesgreen · 04/05/2017 08:43

Well, what exactly were you expecting? (Remainer here, btw).

MrsWrex · 04/05/2017 08:43

They metaphorically want our heads on spikes as a warning to the electorates of other potentially itchy-footed members

That's what I mean.

I'm too poor to escape, if this country goes tits up we are fucked.

The EU would happily mess my children's lives up as an 'I told you so' lesson. That makes me deeply uncomfortable.

Those bastards have got me rooting for TM to not fuck it up and to 'win' (yes I know, not that simple, but to get the best deal for the uk)

TheSultanofPingu · 04/05/2017 08:46

They're hardly going to make it easy for us are they!

BarbarianMum · 04/05/2017 08:47

You reap what you sow. The UK has been bitching and whining about Brussels and blaming the EU for everything for 20 odd years now. And now we're leaving (whilst still shouting insults over one shoulder) and sulking that they don't want to be besties.

AbundantFenestration · 04/05/2017 08:49

They are not being arsey. This is the reality of the situation. May thinks she is going to get super deal and they are just continuing to make clear that this will not be the case.

TheDowagerCuntess · 04/05/2017 08:50

I'm surprised you're surprised by it, OP

There is absolutely zero reason for the EU to play nice, and every reason to play hardball.

Mulledwine1 · 04/05/2017 08:50

I don't think there are going to be any issues about EU citizens living in the UK (and remember, many UK citizens can also have EU nationality, so actually there is a much larger pool of people living in the UK who are EU citizens). I thought the "bargaining chip" issue was pretty low. However, you do have a choice. British citizens who voted to remain and don't have EU or other citizenship, do not. We simply have to sit here and hope that things do not get so bad that the prospects for our children are no better than for the Greeks for example.

However, given some of the idiotic comments coming out from people in the EU who really should know better (Juncker - why is anyone giving him any exposure, he is such a loose canon) and Weber in the European parliament who said of course the UK could not have access to Europol in the week Georgia signed an agreement on Europol - they weren't members of the EU last time I looked...

Look at it from the EU's point of view - a flourishing Britain post-Brexit could be catastrophic for its future

why? Because other countries would want to leave, too? It should have more confidence in itself. There is not a majority in favour of leaving the EU in any other country. It was always obvious to me, as soon as Cameron said in 2013 he'd hold an in/our referendum, that we'd vote to leave. The UK has always thought it was special. That said, I think we've been much better Europeans that we've been given credit for, and it's a pity we've got such a hardline government in charge of Brexit. Maybe that will change a bit at the election if there are more (reasonable) Tory MPs.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 04/05/2017 09:13

I dont think they are being arsey either

I would like someone to please show me how they are being unreasonable

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 04/05/2017 09:15

Oh and i agree with mulled

Idiotic comments from all sorts of people abound at the moments

LaPharisienne · 04/05/2017 09:17

For those who hadn't already realised, the U.K. is fucked.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/03/the-six-brexit-traps-that-will-defeat-theresa-may

alltouchedout · 04/05/2017 09:17

It's not arsey to point to bluntly state the truth to people who seem not to understand that reality of what is happening. How did Britain get so soft and pathetic that as soon as someone says something the leaders don't like there is a load of hoo hah about bullying?

PaintingByNumbers · 04/05/2017 09:17

remainer here
this was always how it was going to be. we are in this together now. I am so angry with leave voters now and forever but im stuck with them. I try to remember its not their fault, it was that dick cameron

JaxingJump · 04/05/2017 09:19

They owe us nothing. And we have caused great instability sand increased their workload, taking all the energy and focus away from the stuff they should be working on.