AIBU to loathe the Royal Family

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The way the media is so gushing about everything Wills, Kate and Harry do, just been watching the evening news, there is a story about Wills and Kate doing a radio broadcast, makes me want to vomit..
And the issues about mental health - really? Do we need Royal 'endorsement' just to get more funding?

Arghhh... pounds'. (stupid auto correct)

They're spending the day trying to encourage talking about and breaking the stigma around mental health. You're spending your day making personal digs at people you don't know.

Who is loathsome?

Not a fan of the Royal family at all. I wouldn't curtsey to them or stand up and sing God save the Queen either.

That being said I do think its good to see them discussing mental health. I do wonder though if it is as someone else said a good PR move after Dad dancing gate.

YABU.

I think its wonderful that they have opened up about an awful tragdey to the nation to help other people.

As someone who lost my own DM suddenly I know how utterly barbaric it is - but that young, and in such a way - they can never have that comfort that she died in peace can they. It was hideous, then they were paraded at the funeral for all the nation to see, no amount of money or privilege could fill that gap or ease that pain.

I'm not bothered either way about the Royals. I think they are an anachronism in a modern world and would prefer an elected non political president. I am glad though that Will and Kate in particular have stepped up a bit after being accused rightly imo of being workshy. They have enormous privilege. At least they can use their profile for good. And re Kate not being a princess, European royalty is so inbred that one genetic illness nearly wiped out the lot of them. They had no choice but to marry commoners. Having Royal blood doesn't make you purer than common people.

Oh, yes they do work!

How ridiculous to suggest what they do isn't work. It's not like they pick and choose either

Can you imagine having your whole life micro managed, planned and controlled

What if William decides he's had enough and doesn't want to be king? He can't. He has no choice...

I also think Kate did a lot of good highlighting hyperemesis.

Wasn't really considered a problem before, just a slight irritation. She got it the attention it deserved

He could decide to dismantle the monarchy or slim it down to just the 'first family' i.e. him, Kate and the children. I wonder if he will since it's so terrible...

YABU. I think their focus on mental health is brave and inspired. It's got people talking openly about what's been a pretty taboo issue.

When you consider some of the people talking so frankly are from a famously reserved family, I think that's pretty impressive.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion on whether the royal family's a worthwhile institution, but to loathe a group of individuals for talking about their own grief and insecurities to highlight a valid issue seems rather churlish.

Monger thank you for that, what an interesting video

I don't loathe the Royal Family as people. Some individual members seem fairly decent and well meaning (others not so much though).

I do feel the Queen herself deserves respect for her dedication to her role of Head of State over most of her adult life.

Its not them I despise but what they represent, i.e. the system of entrenched privilege which monarchy underpins and justifies.

YABU. I quite like the royal family. Generally positive influence, preserving historic buildings and artifacts, something to be jolly about every once in a while. Much rather the Royal Family than a president. Seriously, I don't get the anger.

I like Kate, Wills and Harry, but not the rest of them, especially Prince Phillip and his children. Prince Charles and that Camilla make me very cross 😠 and Prince Andrew is just awful.

Excluding Prince Harry and The Duke of Cambridge. They're just glorified "dolites"

I can't say I loathe them, though. They're not that important to me

What BonnieF says is, I think, the crucial point. There’s the family, and then there’s the institution. The institution has long relied on the concept of the Great Chain of Being, and kings are ordained by God from birth to be king – every sperm is sacred, except that kingly one is more sacred than anyone else’s.

But the Queen wasn’t ordained at birth (or conception) to be the queen. The Great Chain of Being took a bit of a swerve when her uncle abdicated. But it all got back on track when her father was ordained king, and subsequently when she was ordained queen. Charles is in a bit of a difficult situation. He was born after the GCofB swerve but before his mother was ordained queen, and I’m not sure about how the whole God-given specialness actually plays out in his case. But, never mind about the intricacies of the succession; what matters is that the institution endures.

I really don’t know what the Royal Family is supposed to be all about. Are they supposed to be at the pinnacle of our society, evidence of the perfectness that’s possible, an exemplar? Or are they supposed to represent us in some way? To be the royal person who opens our hospital/school/whatever, to show that, yes, what’s important in our ordinary lives actually does matter and, really, they’re just one of us. There was an infamous documentary, probably back in the ‘60s, which showed the Royal Family doing ordinary things, such as Philip cooking on a BBQ, and the Queen doing some washing-up. Apparently, the Queen hated it. She thought it trivialised what the Royal Family is supposed to be about.

I do like that the Princes and Catherine are highlighting mental health issues. Though I’m not sure they’re going about it the right way. The Princes’ recollections seem to show that it was the institution that held sway – getting back to normal at all costs. Rather than focusing on two young boys whose mother had suddenly died.

I do feel some sympathy for Catherine. Whatever her ambitions (or those of her family) were, she is performing royalty quite well, but it seems just an act, and I wonder how long she can keep that up. Even more so, her children really can’t just be children, because George will eventually be the King, and it’s the institution that will inevitably guide his ways to that end.

They can't win , can they . When Diana died and there was a huge outpouring of emotion , the older ones got criticised by all and sundry for keeping up the 'stiff upper lip' and getting on with it . When the younger ones start talking about uncomfortable subjects like mental health, and counselling , suddenly people want them to shut up . Make up your mind , really .

I've always said that I'd have huge respect for the royals if they were put in a council housing estate on minimum wage for a bit, just to experience life from a different perspective for a while. Maybe then the queen wouldn't look like she'd swallowed a ruddy wasp's nest every time she needs to interact with 'her public'.
They're generally not as popular up here in Scotland. I once was walking along the street and her car passed by- no one in sight and she was waving out the window as if there was a screaming crowd ( and her face was still tripping her)

Yabu to loathe people you don't know. Harry raising awareness of MH issues - good thing. Kate talking of how hard it is being a new mum - sorry no, that's making a mockery of us.

The problem is that mental health is nearly as wide and as varied as physical health, and I do definitely think that as a nation we are slipping into two "types."

There's the "type" we talk about. Depression - especially when there's a nice, socially acceptable reason for it like recently having had a baby or losing your mum. Same with stress: examination stress is an excellent one because it takes a swipe at the government as well as indicating a type A personality. Some eating disorders come into this category. Anxiety is also fine. These are all mental health problems that apparently can be solved just by talking. That's all it takes! That means if you are fortunate enough not to suffer from any of the above, you can actually cure the above just by being kind! Isn't this lovely?

So the royals have added to this by throwing in a couple of common, albeit distressing, life events, and talked about their mental health problems following it. Fine, okay - no problem with that whatsoever.

But let's not pretend it scratches the surface on real mental health. Go beyond the anxiety, depression and stress and walk into a world where an unwashed individual will scream in the face of the Duchess of Cambridge because she's terrified of her because she can hear voices in her head telling her she's there to harm her. Or the homeless man who walks through town muttering to himself - only he's not. Or the woman who has lost all her teeth through multiple vomiting. I could go on and on and on.

Psychiatric hospitals are still pretty intense places and this idea that anyone in them can be cured by being kind is patronising. It places mental health illnesses in a category apart and they really shouldn't be.

I feel that William, Kate and Harry would be perfectly happy if there were no Royal Family and it was abolished after the Queen passes away.

I live in Scotland and they are popular, particularly in the Highlands It was one of the sticking points at the last referendum - Alex Salmond was keen to stress we could keep the monarchy.

I agree about people 'loathing' the royals - why would you loathe people who are just getting along doing their thing? Clearly, raising mental health awareness is a good idea, why take offence?