To not know who the hell the vote for?

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As far as I can see my options are:

Tory - probably get the best deal for brexit but I utterly abhor some of their current policies and the way lives are being destroyed

Labour - an inefficient opposition with nothing to suggest they would be any better in government. Their leader is, at best, naive. As an aside I had vowed to never vote for them after they brought in university fees but that's small fry these days!

Lib Dem - no idea what they are doing as shown with the coalition. Plus my local candidate never bothers to get his leaflets proof read which doesn't give you faith in his efficiency if he were in power.

UKIP - should no longer be in existence. They got what they wanted - brexit- so no longer have a point. The trouble with single issue parties is when that issue is gone they really need to disband.

BNP - no. Just no.

Greens - a wasted vote.

Independent - see above. Also in a government run by parties even if they get in will never be more than a backbencher.

Mrs Pritchard's Purple Party - sadly not real.

Have I missed anything?

To be fair no one mentions over population but you'd think the Greens would!!

Mine also, goldfish

Sorry for the delay, I've Bern giving what I want serious thought.

I want an open doors immigration policy but with the ability to turf out anyone who breaks the law, and to keep them out. I expect other countries to be able to do the same with our scum too.

I want the NHS evaluated to work out what is going wrong, instead of just throwing money at it. Then I want money thrown at it because that will be at least part of the solution.

I want politicians to look at the proposed £10 weekly carer increase and times it by ten as a starting point while they work out a decent wage.

I want housing benefit reinstated for the young to try and get rid of this sex for room thing that's going on.

I want trade agreements set up within and without the EU.

I want decent, safe homeless centres set up in every town with help to find housing included.

I want this country to be safe and secure.

I want other countries to be forced to spend money on their own poor before we send foreign aid for their dictators to snaffle (ok, don't actually expect an answer to this one but well remember us sending millions to India while it developed its space program).

I want to know in advance how they plan to find their promises.

I want agricultural subsidies to be paid, where relevant, to the tenant farmer who is losing money by doing x rather than the landlord who is saying the vote tenant can't do as they want with the land they've rented because the landlord wants to be paid twice.

I want the current disability witch hunt stopped and decent benefits reinstated.

I want the six week wait for universal credit scrapped.

I want the child benefit rape clause removed and recognised as a potential trigger for violence.

I want bad landlords seriously penalised.

I want green space protected.

I want more GAps and more encouragement to study medicine, for example fees scrapped provided you work for the NHS for x years after graduating.

I want university fees scrapped and grants reinstated properly.

I want job centres to take into account local conditions and sanctions to be used only as a last resort.

I want adults on police animals to be treated as an assault on a police officer. And I want assaults on officers to be treated a lot more seriously (and on all emergency services).

I want animals to stop being regarded as chattels and thefts to be treated a lot more seriously.

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I want fairness.

How's that to start?

Fund promises

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Animals not adults

Really didn't mean to press post!

I want agricultural subsidies to be paid, where relevant, to the tenant farmer who is losing money by doing x rather than the landlord who is saying the vote tenant can't do as they want with the land they've rented because the landlord wants to be paid twice.
Apparently Phillip Hammond has pledged to match current CAP payments to land owners. Paul Dacre, editor of the Daily Mail gets thousands a month for his land.

Look at the policies, not the people. You're voting for a party not one person.

There certainly were 'Who do I vote for' type websites last election. Once the parties publish a manifesto each then the sites will pop up.

Cloud, that's what I mean - it's going to the owners not the tenants. But it's the tenants having to deal with the restrictions. It's a gray area but another thing making farming unprofitable. We need them to eat!

Vote Labour

It does make a mockery of 'Brexit means Brexit'. Unless you're a land owner in which case we'll insulate you from it.
Tenant farmer? Oops. Market forces...

I want strict controls of zero hour contracts (maybe when you join you have a choice?)

I want an end to the gig economy version of self employed but only working for one company.

This us getting quite cathartic!

I'm very anti brexit and voting Lib Dem for the first time ever. I've always voted for Labour before but they've been weak and pathetic over brexit.

I would never ever vote for the Tories. Theresa May is a nasty liar.

The problem is that almost all of the 52% will vote for the Tories.

About half of the 48% will vote for Labour and the other half will vote for Lib Dems. The left vote is split in half and useless.

I think we can forget entirely about the other parties.

Several years ago I was part of a zero hours discussion here under another name. There are some people who like zero hours. They tended to have a contracted hours partner and were on a contract with a trusted employer. Therefore I see that simply banning them would be simplistic but I agree that they are not something that should be commonplace or non negotiable.

Name the SNP have more MPs than the Lib Dems so you can't ignore them. And I think you've fallen into a trope that is at odds with with statistics.

I'm veering towards lib dems myself pretty much by process of elimination!
-i am opposed to brexit and whilst I accept it's going to happen I'm really not up for this hard brexit off a cliff edge approach

• I'm opposed to scottish independence so that fairly well rules out snp

-i think Corbyn is an ineffective twit -i think the welfare state did get out of hand under Labour and I have no trust that they wouldn't do so again. I grew up in a single parent household with a mum who got hefty disability benefits for a much exaggerated condition. She could never have earned close to her benefit income

• that said I think the Tory cuts have been inhumane for many and cruelly implemented.
• I think the lib dems, as a minority coalition partner, took far too much of a pasting for not keeping their tuition fee promise

My votes probably worthless anyway due to the snp but we did see massive swings here last time. My seat was previously help by a decent long-standing labour no who lost it to an snp councillor, but his vote only dropped a small amount- the swing was actually from lib dems, who were previously second, to snp.

I forgot about the SNP - ooops.

Well reasoned Statistically. I think i'm heading Lib Dem at present - would be a lot easier if the local candidate want such an idiot!

As a primary teacher, I see evidence of the suffering caused by Tory policy week in, week out.
Child poverty is real. Primary-aged children, whose parents are doing the very best they can in the circumstances,
-go hungry and eat their one hot meal of the day at school
-are pitifully unsupported as young carers as mental health and social care budgets are slashed
-are missing out on school trips and camps (and we no longer have the means to subsidise these activities)
-wear trainers held together with gaffa-tape

-live nomadic lives in shelters, B'n'Bs and temporary accommodation for months on end while agencies scrabble around to find housing
-wait for years for referrals to education services to come through
-come to school in dirty, smelly clothes because their accommodation lacks laundry facilities and launderettes cost a bomb
-live in severely over-crowded conditions, without the everyday facilities you and I take for granted
-have parents who work several minimum wage jobs around the clock, and so have to stay with friends and relatives more than anyone would wish

I could go on. And that is just the children. The lives some of the parents live beggar belief. I think I work hard, but that's nothing compared to those who are working their knuckles to the bone to have only a fraction of the things I take for granted for my own children, yet face uncertainty and humiliation at every turn.

For me, it is simple. I will do whatever I can to get rid of the Conservatives. My local Tory MP has done some great things in my constituency, but she wreaks merry hell in the Commons, and doesn't think twice about it.
And for what it's worth, I think Jeremy Corbyn is every bit the leader I want him to be. But then I tend to take the right-wing media haterz with a pinch of salt

I think based on your beliefs Labour might, at the moment, be a good fit.

Because currently they're

• ok on welfare policy and
• a lot more Britain-focussed than they have been in the past

I'm in favour of the first and ambivalent towards the second, but they might be a better bet for someone in favour of both than the Lib Dems, who are currently more international in their outlook.

However. Having said that, do check it against what the individual candidates in your area have to say on the issues you care about, because there's huge variation within each party.

I'm confused by how much interest there is in the leadership of each party, speaking as someone who doesn't have much of an opinion either way on Corbyn or May.

The emphasis should be on voting for an individual MP who represents our views, mitigated by their chances of getting elected, where applicable. It's a bit worrying, to be honest, it has the feel of the politics-as-reality-TV that's been plaguing us more and more over the past couple of decades.

If you can't decide, but know you're against enough Conservative policy to want them out, you can always look up those spreadsheets that explain how best to vote against them. Better that than not voting at all.

I think Corbyn has been the victim of a smear campaign. He is not perfect..... but i think he is strong (contrary to what people say)as he didnt resign under pressure. Unlike Boris, Cameron snd Farage. He is bloody minded i will give him that!

I'm leaning towards greens. I feel like throwing my vote away.

I've been a conservative voter,supporter and stood for local elections with them.

Like fuck are they getting my vote. Our local MP is at best an incompetent career MP and worst a cheat and easily swayed by whatever will improve their status.

I think for me it will have to be lib dem - they won't get in though. My area is one of the safest Tory seats. But one less vote for tories is all I can do.

I wouldn't be against the election as much if May had called it before triggering Article50. For that alone the tories will not be getting my vote. The only thing is do I write to my MP & tell him. Or keep quiet in case I need him in the future? I don't know. MN jury needed