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Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

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Wettingthetopbunkbed · 18/04/2017 12:28

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

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Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 10:39

Maybe he's a Leninist like Steve Bannon. He just wants to destroy everything.

GretchenFranklin · 19/04/2017 10:43

why are we still going on about the train thing out of interest?

wasn't it simply a carriage where all the seats were reserved and then some jiggery pokery from the DM to make it look like he walked into an empty carriage and decided to sit on the floor? Confused

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 19/04/2017 10:43

I may, for the first time in my life, vote Labour in this GE. I can't stand Corbyn - I think he's a racist, sexist anti-semitic hypocrite. The apologetic bleating on here about how he has no ego and is not interested in power is fucking laughable - he's clinging on for dear life despite the fact that significant portions of his party are begging him to stand aside and let someone take over who stands a chance of getting Labour into Govt.

I want a credible opposition. I want a party that can actually govern and whose policies have been properly costed - rather than reliant on Osborne's (failed) deficit reduction having been achieved first. I want a leader in charge who isn't anti-women and who will reward blind loyalty over ability - looking at you Diane Abbott. I want a leader who isn't a terrorist supporter. I want a leader who will clamp down on antisemitism and actually fucking mean it. I want a leader who realises that siting on the moral high ground on the opposition benches does not help the people on the street who are suffering as a result of the current government's policies - I want a leader who knows that they need to be elected into power to actually change stuff, rather than wafting about at protest rallies and buggering off on holiday during one of the most important campaigns in this country's history.

I'd like to vote Lib Dem, but I suspect it would be wasted in my ward. So, having looked at my Labour MP's parliamentary attendance, voting record, expenses and her position on Corbyn (she resigned from a shadow post and was one of the signatories on the anti-abuse letter sent to him), I will vote for her. I don't like the idea of voting tactically, but I cannot stand by and watch the NHS being dismantled and sold off piece-by-piece. Nor some of the poorest people in society being disadvantaged by policies which also mean that some of the richest get a tax break. It's morally repugnant - and if I have to vote Labour to keep the Conservatives out then I'll hold my nose and ignore Corbyn and do it.

The only thing that worries me is if I vote for my Labour MP and she's then de-selected by Momentum.

ShatnersWig · 19/04/2017 10:44

Gretchen No, it wasn't.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/04/2017 10:46

Why would anyone want a 'thicko' running the country.
You're a delight aren't you.Hmm
Being intelligent is not just about getting all A* and letters after your name. People may not be academic but. They could be very intelligent in other ways.

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 19/04/2017 10:46

and who won't reward blind loyalty over ability

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 10:48

The train thing shows how he couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
And no it wasn't all a DM fiddle. He tried to make a political point about something that was his own cock-up.

NoLotteryWinYet · 19/04/2017 10:48

the reason I don't feel I can even vote for my local labour people if they're anti-Corbyn is it just prolongs the pain. We need to get him out and a slash and burn strategy where labour is annihilated is what I feel it'll take to get the members to vote him out at this point.

I've become an extremist on the labour party because the best way to get a better leader is to find a way to force members to vote him down. The result of the election won't make him resign, but it may change the views of party members voting for him...

NoLotteryWinYet · 19/04/2017 10:49

let's face it - if he didn't go in the teeth of all of the talent in the PLP resigning, the only test he cares about is being voted out by members.

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 10:53

paul I get you I really do but I honestly think it's worth voting Tory to get rid of Corbyn or labour will never ever win another election.

NoLotteryWinYet · 19/04/2017 11:03

it's personally tough - I couldn't look my lovely local labour campaigner in the eye when I had to walk passed her, I know it's not her personal fault that JC is leader, but we need to get him out and as I said he's proving to be a total nutcase resistant to normal signs that he's a dead loss and a failure in his job.

NoLotteryWinYet · 19/04/2017 11:05

my family member who's in a sink ward of a crappy area says even she's worried about her polling because of the unpopularity of JC on the doorstep.

user666999 · 19/04/2017 11:07

He's a notorious racist (yes racism against Jews is still racism) and has friends who have similar views to Hitler (Hamas and Hezbollah). So if you vote for Labour with Corbyn as leader you are voting for a racist (no better than Le Pen) and will be judged as such. The extreme left and far right always meet together in the middle (strangely on the issue of the Jewish question).

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 11:08

Lottery agree. How has it come to this again this will take 10 years to fix I think just as it did in the 80s. Momentum has invaded the party like a vile parasite snd it will take a very strong leader to quash them. Have we got a Kinnock?

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 11:11

Far left and far right always suppprt racist and Mysogynistic views and are generally bullies.

NoLotteryWinYet · 19/04/2017 11:15

i saw McCluskey frothing his bollocks on QuestionTime the other day and I felt like it was back to the bad old days too - without the cool music!

Thiiiings can only get better...! :)

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 11:20

Blimey back to the Manchester Rally Wink

poor Neil he did all the hard work for Blaire to enjoy.

Ffs see Labour MPs are calling for the party to abstain!!! Because that looks like an opposition ready to fight behind a leader they support.

That looks weak doesn't it. So many good and decent labour MPs are going to loose their seats because of Corbyn.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 19/04/2017 11:22

Well, if this thread is anything to go by, corbyn doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

We are stuck with the tories forever aren't we? Goodbye NHS. Hello Cayman style tax haven.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 19/04/2017 11:29

No PinkCrystal I did not read it in the Daily Mail Hmm yawn yawn

It's a fact he has confirmed when being interviewed backed up by pictures

The Queen shaked MM years after the peace process (that JC and JM opposed) and unfortunately when you are PM you have to be in the very least diplomatic and in Trumps case it's a whole new type of politics as cringy as it was we need the US she is not a feel she knew how to deal with him

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 11:35

Fox I hope and pray labour will renew when he's fucked off. We have done it before and will again. Hopefully.

user666999 · 19/04/2017 11:43

"At least Corbyn would not hold Trump's hand."

He'd probably hold Hitler's though.

Batgirlspants · 19/04/2017 11:48

He would do anything to get publicity when he was a back bench MP so I wouldn't put anything past him. He would say anything as long as it was disloyal and agitating to his own party. The irony of him pleading for suppprt in his own party. Ludicrous man.

ShatnersWig · 19/04/2017 11:50

user No, but Ken Livingstone might, he can't stop mentioning him

derxa · 19/04/2017 11:57

I saw Steven Kinnock interviewed this morning just after the news about the election broke - he comes across really well. His dad was a bit of a disaster but I am tipping him as a leader of the future - he's very good. God no. He's a creepy entitled twonk

derxa · 19/04/2017 12:03

I asked him about Scotland on a MN webchat. He blabbered on about Keir Hardie. He's stuck in the past and has no strategy to make Labour electable. I quite like him in the sense that he sticks to his beliefs. Unfortunately he doesn't appeal to floating right of centre voters like me.
He'll go after the election then you'll get Tony Blair Mark 2