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Soya "milk " advice needed please

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Bananasandchocolatecustard · 18/04/2017 09:14

I have decided to stop using milk because of the cruelty in the dairy industry. Which soya "milk" would be best to use with tea/coffee and cereal - sweetened or unsweetened?
TIA

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gottaloveascamhun · 18/04/2017 20:47

How do you know when you but a pint of dairy milk from Tesco how much the cow and her calves have suffred? You just don't know.

Shadowboy · 18/04/2017 20:51

Yes it is possible but not theat common in the UK. Honestly both my grandparents on both sides are farmers (were when they were alive) and I spent my holidays helping and I remember the 2 year olds being taken to pasture to 'run' with that year's chosen bull (this was when AI was fairly new and expensive). They would then give birth in their 3rd year. The reason young cows were left barren is simply many wouldn't 'take' so we're usually left and not bothered with and also the longevity- many farmers do care about welfare and breeding from a young cow often compromises her health in the long term. I have heard though that some of these mega farms in China with 20,000 plus cows are bred very young as these are simply corporate businesses. They are never turned out to pasture and will be fed concentrate - soya is a likely large component.

None of my grandparents cattle were ever fed soya- ever- hand on heart. My fathers side stopped farming 5 years ago when my grandmother died of stomach cancer. My grandparents on my mothers side stopped when my grandfather passed away. Both sold up so things may have changed a little, but I think for the better- more farms a pasture based, more going organic but many more folding due to milk price.

I will say this- what makes good pasture doesn't always make good crop land. In this country do t assume that moving away from dairy with instantly improve environmentally. Wheat, oats etc are nutrient intensive - heavy fertiliser, herbicide and fungicide use is required and without livestock manure to produce some nitrogen to replace what is drained this will need to be artificially created (high energy cost) so pasture raised livestock be it lamb, beef etc that's local will actually have a reasonably low footprint, lower than some soya grown in USA.

Bananasandchocolatecustard · 18/04/2017 21:52

Newballs - I'm going to start with liquid milk and then stop dairy products such as yogurt etc. As I mentioned I'v been vegetarian for a long time , so have knowledge based on that. I don't drink alcohol either.

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schrutefarmbeets · 18/04/2017 21:53

Oatly is my favourite :)

SuffolkBumkin · 18/04/2017 22:02

Wow, didn't realise soy was so devastating to the environment, won't be buying that again.

Bananasandchocolatecustard · 19/04/2017 15:07

Thanks agofor all the advice. I bought the oatly "milk" and it's really nice in tea and on cereal.

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Emily7708 · 20/04/2017 21:41

Just don't serve tea to any visiting coeliacs!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 22/04/2017 12:48

I switched to soya milk nearly 2 years ago, yes they are sweet (almost caramel) in coffee.
I had my tastes honed to Alpro Original. I know they use the Wholebean one in coffee shops but its too rich in cereal.

So I'm ploughing my way through alnertatives.
I don't like coconut in hot drinks (fine in a smoothie if I freeze it)
Don't like hazelnut (tastes 'off')

Roasted almond and cashew are very watery (I'll use them in cereal)

I reckon the Oatly oat one is ok (I also have Alpro oat but not tried it) but I have to put the 'milk' in, then water then half a spoon of coffee otherwuse its too strong.
This'll cut down my coffee consumption if nothing else.

Bananasandchocolatecustard · 22/04/2017 13:24

70isa I'v found I'm using less tea when making a pot, otherwise it's too strong. I can recommend the Oatly chocolate drink.

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