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Soya "milk " advice needed please

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Bananasandchocolatecustard · 18/04/2017 09:14

I have decided to stop using milk because of the cruelty in the dairy industry. Which soya "milk" would be best to use with tea/coffee and cereal - sweetened or unsweetened?
TIA

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brassbrass · 18/04/2017 13:58

my experience isn't anecdotal thanks

soya messed me up pretty good for a while and people should be warned that it can have detrimental effects on your health.

I wasn't drinking litres of the stuff either. I was having it in tea and porridge.

We are all different think about the contraceptive pill. There isn't just one and even then some women never get on with it. It's down to individual make up. Making generalisations like you have doesn't help. Some women may be able to take soya. Hooray for them FFS.

But for others there is a very real and tangible contraindication.

hhorvath · 18/04/2017 14:00

Where's your proof that it "messed you up"?

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:00

walkingtowork cut it out and see if your symptoms improve!

TammySwanson · 18/04/2017 14:00

Hmm I think you'll find that's the very definition of anecdotal.

hhorvath · 18/04/2017 14:00

It's the definition of anecdotal!

anecdotal
ˌanɪkˈdəʊtl/Submit
adjective
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

Walkingtowork · 18/04/2017 14:01

hhorvath because I've been checked out medically , no explanation, and I have to stick to a strict diet for health reasons and that's the only thing I've introduced. No other lifestyle changes.

I'm very happy to believe it's probably soya - sounds like it isn't - but I think you'll understand that when bloody weird stuff is happening to your body, you tend to want to know why!

hhorvath · 18/04/2017 14:02

Maybe there's no explanation because there's nothing medically wrong?

EpoxyResin · 18/04/2017 14:02

Not one of the usual alternatives but we use Good Hemp - it's a Hemp milk and available in all the supermarkets along with the usual soya, oat and nut milks. It's the most "milk looking" with a very white colour, a really mild grain-like taste and perfect for savoury cooking or your usual cereal and tea. My toddler loves the stuff, so it must be good! Plus I've heard only good things about the sustainability etc. of hemp, not that I know much in the way of facts.

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:02

don't be a twat.

I experienced it for 18 months. When I cut the soya out I got better. I don't need to prove anything to you btw. It happened get over it.

Semaphorically · 18/04/2017 14:03

hhorvath That's what her consultant endocrinologist told her caused the thyroid issues and most likely the miscarriage. Her iodine levels were through the roof. The brand was withdrawn from sale, she wasn't the only one with problems.

Walkingtowork · 18/04/2017 14:04

I mean I'm happy to believe it's probably NOT soya, oops.

I will try cutting it out, but hadn't thought the evidence was strong enough. I just want to know what's up with my menstrual cycle, it's very concerning. The doctors think it's 'stress' but nothing has changed... anyway, sorry for the derail!

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:05

plus you know your body. You know when something isn't right.

hhorvath · 18/04/2017 14:06

But that's not about soya milk, it's about inappropriate supplementation of iodine in soya milk.

The iodine causes the symptoms not the soya.9

hhorvath · 18/04/2017 14:07

brass if you want to believe your subjective experience, go for it. But don't tell other people to avoid soya like you're some kind of expert.

TammySwanson · 18/04/2017 14:07

If you've been checked out medically (even to the point of checking for early menopause which I would have thought would involve checking hormone levels etc) then it's most likely stress and not the mythical soy milk/hormone interaction, but if it sets your mind at rest then cut it out by all means! Smile

Justanothernameonthepage · 18/04/2017 14:08

Another vote for Oatly Barrista. Perfect in coffee

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:09

I think you'll find I already have and will continue to do so.

Semaphorically · 18/04/2017 14:09

hhorvath Well, until someone starts routinely testing all soya milk for excess iodine levels I will stay away from it. I don't believe it's compulsory to consume it?

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:11

you're the one trying to come across like an expert.

I shared my experience. Which may or may not inform the OP's decision. You don't control my ability to do that, it's a public forum.

Walkingtowork · 18/04/2017 14:13

Seeing as it won't do anyone any harm to avoid it, surely it's worth a try. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, otherwise it's black coffee for me in cafes Sad (though I did find almond milk in a Costa the other day)

Fruu · 18/04/2017 14:15

We quite like hemp milk and almond milk. :) I thought oat milk and rice milk tasted like cardboard but maybe they've improved! Every brand of non-dairy milk differs, so try a couple of each variety before deciding you don't like milk made from a particular ingredient.

On a related note, I fully respect anyone's decision to give up dairy due to animal cruelty as I was vegan for 10 years (gave it up due to unrelated health problems that made it a choice between my ethics and wellbeing). However, a small warning that I think anyone considering it should be aware of - if you stop consuming cow's milk and related dairy, you can lose your ability to digest lactose. My partner and I are both very lactose intolerant due to not drinking milk - me for 10 years and him for only about 6 months! It's something to consider carefully if you're not absolutely sure this will be a long-term decision as it can restrict your food choices in the future if you change your mind, along with related complications like having to read most food labels and having well-meaning family and friends regularly mildly poisoning you because they don't take lactose intolerance seriously. Sometimes it can be a nuisance for other reasons too, like prescription medicines often containing lactose as a filler. I would still have made the decision to give up milk if I'd known that I'd develop lactose intolerance but I would have been happier and more accepting of the outcome if I'd been warned! :)

Walkingtowork · 18/04/2017 14:17

Right, I'm going to stand as an independent Prospective Parliamentary Candidate in June on the single-issue 'nut milk in cafes' party. Can I count on your votes? Grin

FemelleReynard · 18/04/2017 14:18

'I have decided to stop using milk because of the cruelty in the dairy industry.'

I'd be interested to know what cruelty this is? Are you involved in the dairy industry so have witnessed it first hand? Or can you point me in the direction of where you got the information stating cruelty takes place?

brassbrass · 18/04/2017 14:18

out of interest does coconut milk have a strong coconutty smell?

Does it make your beverage smell like coconut?

TammySwanson · 18/04/2017 14:19

So long as it's also a 'no coconut milk, ever' position because that is disgusting (in coffee especially!) Smile