Soya "milk " advice needed please

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I have decided to stop using milk because of the cruelty in the dairy industry. Which soya "milk" would be best to use with tea/coffee and cereal - sweetened or unsweetened?
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Most soy is planted to feed animals! Don't fall for the pro-dairy propaganda.

Fucking vegans and their soy bean lust. Raping the planet I tells ye. Utter bastards.

Another vote for Oatly oat milk.
When DH decided to give up dairy we tried all the milk alternatives and oat milk won hands down

Oatley oat milk is awesome. The blue carton is fortified and doesn't have stabilisers in it like soy and other types. The organic one is unfortified.

I would add that most claims of soya causing hormonal problems can be traced to the dairy industry.

Cow's milk is quite sweet so you may wish to start with a slightly sweet soya milk and see after a short while if you want to switch to unsweetened as your tastes change. Don't use sweetened in cooking though.

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I wouldn't use soy, personally. A friend had thyroid issues and a miscarriage due to soy milk. I'm trying to cut down on dairy as well so thank you to everyone on the thread for the good alternative options

I don't like the taste of milk so I've tested various alternatives including rice milk, almond milk, soy (sweetened and unsweetened) and oatly. My favourite which I've been using on my breakfast cereal almost every day for about 10 years now is the soy milk sweetened with apple juice ( either Tesco or Morrisons which both taste very similar). The Alpro ones tasted different like they've added some strange flavouring to it - I don't like the taste. Rice milk is ok but very thin. Almond milk I didn't like - quite bitter I think. Oatly was ok but my cereal is oat- based muesli so it would be more of the same, whereas soy provides more variety and more protein.
I use about 1/3 of a litre every morning and have never noticed any adverse effects on my hormones.

I use koko coconut milk for me and my children. I tried every type of plant based milk you could find and koko is by far our favourite. I do like oatly occasionally too.

I would add that most claims of soya causing hormonal problems can be traced to the dairy industry.

what on earth are you talking about?

I wouldn't go down the soy route. Almond or coconut is better in nearly every respect. Environment, habitat loss, human cost (soy is notoriously Agri-corp controlled) and water use.

There is also the calf at foot dairy in the uk.

Laura: "The vast majority of soy beans are fed to cattle, so the whole "oooh soy is evil because of deforestation" doesn't really work. You're contributing far less to that deforestation from drinking soy milk directly from the bean than you would be processing it through a hungry cow first."

Quite.

DD likes rice milk on cereal, but doesn't drink much tea or coffee. Am thinking of going vegan myself but don't really like soya milk, so considering just taking it black. Am sure you can get used to it.

Cattle in the UK are fed on grass and root veg/silage in winter. Precious little soy if any is involved in producing British milk, not to mention the hills where cattle and sheep can be pastured but which otherwise are unsuitable for agriculture.

If you were in the USA where cattle do get raised on feed lots (mostly beef ones), then they would be eating a large proportion of soy.

Oat and almond milks are OK in drinks or cooking IMO, but soya milk tastes like grey vomit. Though oddly Alpro soy yoghurt is quite pleasant if much more like blancmange.

I only drink herbal teas but vanilla soy milk is great with coffee. I also use almond milk for general cooking and coconut milk for baking as its a bit sweet for anything else.

The Oatly Barista is the best one in coffee by a mile but it does have a large amount of "natural" sugar in, so I restrict using it for anything else. The normal Oatly one is vile I think! Alpro wholebean soya also doesn't separate in coffee, so that's what I drink mainly though I'm quite alarmed by the post above.....Almond milk is good too, but I only ever get the unsweetened ones as some are horrendously sweet.

"A friend had thyroid issues and a miscarriage due to soy milk"

What utter bollocks.

There are loads of plant based milks to chose from if you find you're not keen on soya.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk

Bonsoy is great- completely different from other soy milks.

The soy industry which produces a modest amount of organic soy milk is far far far less destructive than the dairy and beef industries (and the soy industry which produces the soy which is fed to cattle).

Using a small amount of soy milk and occasionally eating a bit of tofu is not going to hurt you! Basing your diet on lots of soy products and guzzling soy milk sounds like an very unhealthy idea.

Bonsoy is expensive enough that you won't guzzle it without thinking, but it is worth paying for, in my opinion.

BahHum thank you. Confirms all my recent reading. Have just told DH (he does the shopping) no more soya desserts. I have a limited diet anyway, so will miss my now usual desserts, but they're not worth the planet damage.

NotCitrus so true. Very few people actually know how UK livestock are fed and raised. My grandparents cattle and dairy cows were never fed soy. In fact they were pasture fed may to end of November then onto a silage and maize mix (the stuff under the tarp and tyres you see in the countryside) the manure was collected at the end of the winter left out in a pile in the field to 'season' then sprayed onto the grass and crop field to fertilise it- full cycle. No soy, no artificial chemicals, fertilisers etc.

Interestingly when I ordered our calf at foot milk for this month I noticed a few creameries now doing calf at foot cheese!

But in this house we sometimes use coconut milk as it's naturally a little sweet and goes well in coffee.

Some people seem to be under the impression that drinking soy can mimic estrogen - this is hokum. In some cases, taking soy isoflavone supplements is recommended during the menopause (although it's not as efficient as HRT) but they type of doses of soy isoflavone is in the 100mg and up range - meaning you would have to be drinking about 4 litres plus of soy milk a day to get to that level (many doses are much higher than that). There are lots of studies and meta-analyses available online about soy and it's effects or non-effects so don't believe the anecdotal evidence here. (for example see lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/dietary-factors/phytochemicals/soy-isoflavones )

Macadamia nut milk is lovely in coffee.

I'd like to know more about the soya/hormone thing, have tried researching it but still unclear. My periods have been all over the place in the last 18 months, early menopause ruled out, and I've been having the odd soya cappuccino during about that time since you could get it more widely in cafes. Might well be total coincidence though...

Corss post But could some people be extra sensitive to it?

Why do you think it's about the odd soya cappuccino as opposed to literally anything else?

I thought that most of the soya grown is fed to livestock and dairy cows anyway and most is not destined for human consumption?

I've read that too. Over 70% apparently.

Walking - I really doubt it, particularly considering the tiny amount you are having!