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to ask if there's anyone else who has never met a trans-person?

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manicinsomniac · 09/04/2017 16:28

I have never (knowingly) met a trans person. I have no trans friends or acquaintances. I have never (in 11 years) taught a trans child. I have no friends whose children are non binary, trans or gender queer.

I'm not a recluse. I know 100s of people.

The prevalence of trans threads on mn baffles me. I know they're important issues. I find many things about the trans agenda very concerning. But I just struggle to believe it is as common and pervasive as reported. I've seen posters refer to ' all my trans friends' , there are several non binary children in dd's school', 'I know loads of trans people' and things like that.

Is there anyone else who, whatever their opinion on the apparent 'trend/craze' just does not see it in their every day lives - at all?

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kerrymumbles · 09/04/2017 19:54

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roarityroar · 09/04/2017 19:57

My comment was deleted?! FFS when did mumsnet start hating women, common sense and science?

This is a damaging fad that validates and praises mental illness/blatant misogyny

BillSykesDog · 09/04/2017 19:58

One years ago, she was a taxi driver and had a wheelchair accessable taxi so she picked us up twice a week for about a year.

Is this in Derbyshire? If so she was on Jeremy Kyle last week.

Cocolepew · 09/04/2017 19:59

Ok, sorry for going off topic Smile

velourvoyageur · 09/04/2017 20:00

Kerry my dear
I think we agree.
It's just one of us is willing to accept a discussion forum for what it is and another of us isn't...
Pity.

BillSykesDog · 09/04/2017 20:01

Are you trying to explain to someone who is transsexual what the "t" word means and how it's used?

She's telling you it's not like the 'n' word. And it's not. No matter how much you don't like it, it's not emblematic of the capture, mass murder, torture and enslavement of millions of people.

peaceloveandbiscuits · 09/04/2017 20:01

I had a friend around fifteen years ago who was ftm trans. Before it was cool Wink

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Natsku · 09/04/2017 20:04

One online friend of mine is a male who is transitioning to female (with all the hormones and stuff)

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velourvoyageur · 09/04/2017 20:09

Kerry, I agree with your 20:06 post 100%.

I just think using the word 'tranny' is going to antagonise the powerful kids so they silence us even more. Sometimes you have to play ball.

velourvoyageur · 09/04/2017 20:11

Except that gender of course has no grounding in genes.

Oops, agreed a little too quickly :)

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FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 09/04/2017 20:19

I work with one MTT, late transitioning - about age 50.

I also had a lecturer at uni about 12 years ago, also MTT also late transitioning. Funnily enough, I didn't pick up on it until a friend told me - back then, women's clothes + make up = woman, even if that woman was really ugly!

I think the fact that so many people are saying they don't know or haven't met any trans people is disturbing. How is it that such a vocal minority is being given such a huge platform? For example - it's 2017 and the Green Party uses (or at least used) non-men rather than the word women. The Barbican has branded women's toilets as all gender.

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AnotherSpartacus · 09/04/2017 20:47

I knew one late-transitioned MTT person who was involved in the same hobby as me - they were lovely and not TRA-ish at all, to my knowledge. Most of our conversations were around the shared interest.

I also had a friend who transitioned (FTT) a few years after I initially got to know her. She was raised in a very conservative religious family with very strict gender roles and I got the impression that she didn't feel she could break away from that unless she 'became a man'. We talked about it in those terms, not that she had always been a man or had a 'male vagina' or anything, but this was a decade ago.

The strangest thing was probably discovering that someone thought I knew quite well online was actually biologically female - before seeing their (unambiguously female, no attempt at 'passing') photo, I only knew them by a male name and as 'he.' I know you can never be sure who you're talking to on the internet, but this was odd and did seem deceptive. I think they now claim to have one of those non-standard gender identities.

I've never been called 'cis' outside of online forums, though, which I'm thankful for. For me, it's even more alarming that the TRA agenda and behaviour seems to have very little in common with most of the ordinary trans individuals that I and others on this thread have met in person.

brasty · 09/04/2017 21:00

Tranny is a word used by some about themselves

Moussemoose · 09/04/2017 21:12

The 'N' word is used by some members of the black community. I don't like it, won't use it and am offended by it. Just because other people use it does not make it right.

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DJBaggySmalls · 09/04/2017 21:18

I know 3, all MTF, one has detransitioned and now regrets amputation. That horrifies me more than I can express.
I know several out lesbians and gay men, none would consider transitioning.

MaryLennoxsScowl · 09/04/2017 21:27

I know one transman, have been friends since we were at school and hope I've been supportive as he transitioned. I have seen him pass and seen people who met him as a woman not recognise him and not twig he is trans. I don't know any transwomen as friends but there was one working in my local shop - at least, I'm pretty sure she was trans, I didn't ask - male face, long hair and makeup, wearing badge with female name - all the staff wore uniform so wasn't obviously wearing women's clothes.

greenwool · 09/04/2017 21:33

I live in a very rural part of the UK.

I personally know no transwomen, but know of two people who are old enough to have been called 'transvestites' in the past. I don't know how they identify. I personally know two transmen in their 30s/40s, both from my time living in London.

That was, until recently, the sum total of the transpeople I've knowingly encountered in my 47 years. But in the past two years, five teenagers I know who are biologically female have announced they are as trans boys.