to ask if there's anyone else who has never met a trans-person?

[manicinsomniac]

I have never (knowingly) met a trans person. I have no trans friends or acquaintances. I have never (in 11 years) taught a trans child. I have no friends whose children are non binary, trans or gender queer.

I'm not a recluse. I know 100s of people.

The prevalence of trans threads on mn baffles me. I know they're important issues. I find many things about the trans agenda very concerning. But I just struggle to believe it is as common and pervasive as reported. I've seen posters refer to ' all my trans friends' , there are several non binary children in dd's school', 'I know loads of trans people' and things like that.

Is there anyone else who, whatever their opinion on the apparent 'trend/craze' just does not see it in their every day lives - at all?

I always thought 'tranny' was a derogatory term.

You Wouldn't always know. Many of them are not noticeably trans.

And its nothing like the n word

Are you trying to explain to someone who is transsexual what the "t" word means and how it's used?

Go on - I could tell you exactly how it's been used towards me.

A couple of friends, F to M.

kerry

Would you use an offensive word to someone who has experience of that word being used against them?

Sure there are trans people who have reclaimed that word. That's their right.

But I bet you wouldn't use certain words such as the N word to describe someone? Would you?

Absolutely loads. Colleagues, friends, youth I work with, Starbucks acquaintances; both mtt and ftt. I live in a very right on part of a very right on country though. All perfectly nice and reasonable people.

Which is why I'm happy to say that I don't think that the rabid, terrifying, misogynist trans activists that purport to represent them don't.

I wish people could tell the difference between concern for women's spaces, women's sports and young people being medicated and sterilised and HATE and BIGOTRY.

Im not trying to explain anything.
I known people who call themselves tranvestites. Why would I presume that was wrong if thats what they call themselves?
It's the way a word is used with other words or the way it is said that makes it abusive.

I think the T word is derogatory

I am struggling to see the link with the N word but I certainly wouldnt use either word

Neither one is a term of endearment!!

Both are dreadful words to use if you are not using them about yourself and it says more about the person using them than the person being referred to

Both are dreadful words to use if you are not using them about yourself and it says more about the person using them than the person being referred to

Indeed it does.

When was 'tranny' ever politically correct??

What's the point of your comment?
If you were being sincere you'd do an advance search and discover for yourself all the many reasons people, among them trans people, might use Mumsnet, since you can't think for yourself. Why would you derail this thread to ask this (uninteresting) Q?

(My all-important credentials: I've been registered here since I was 16 or so. Am still childless at 23. I'm not trans.)

Transvestites?
God, I wish that's all we had to worry about.

Me neither. There are quite a few at dh's work but it's a large establishment.

Neither of my children are at school yet but I don't believe children (especially) can be transgender. Let them be children and free from society's expectations for as long as possible.

Yes half the group of lesbian friends I had are now FtT. Most other lesbians I know of are, or have been, in a relationship with a FtT person, sometimes feel I am a rarity - a lesbian married to another lesbian!

Back in the good old days of the seventies eh Kerry? You could call people what you wanted and minorities never got uppity?

A quick fb search throws up loads of transvestite groups. I thought a TV was someone who liked to dress in stereotypical women clothes?
I don't use it as an insult because I'm dont act in a hateful manner towards anyone .

don't you that people can't keep up with the acronyms and political correct terminology?

Anyone with half a brain cell can expend energy to do just that (and does, as evidenced by transactvisists today...who I don't support). People can also exercise critical judgement to decide what they agree with or not. I reject a great deal of the 'acronyms and PC terminology'. I don't agree with the term 'transgender'. I think we should be talking about 'gender dysphoria'/'dysphoric' - at the same time I'm miraculously able to reject 'tranny', as even as a millenial lesbian female I can remember it being used in derogatory sense...inc. referring to women who don't according to the trans lobby 'present as women' (e.g. with sex organs but otherwise not traditionally feminine*) - 'tranny' is offensive to everyone, in the logical sense and historical use of the word! Gender is a feckin means of control, people, wake up!

@cocolepew

It's the word "Tranny" that many people find offensive. Not the words you say you use.

Coco - i don't think this thread is about transvestites (admittedly I've skipped a couple of pages), and in any case, it's the word 'tranny' that is a slur.