AIBU to beg you not to bet on the Grand National? It's animal abuse.

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Please think about what you're condoning.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=grand+national+deaths&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhieOLlZXTAhUCOxoKHTDFDagQ_AUICSgC&biw=1366&bih=638

www.independent.co.uk/voices/grand-national-races-animal-cruelty-get-rid-of-dangerous-jump-a7672131.html

"It’s time for the Grand National again – that curious time of year when people who claim to like horses gather to exploit them, often hurting and killing them in the process.

Since 2000, 48 horses have died at the annual festival that the National is part of. Others have suffered horribly with broken backs, necks or legs, severed tendons, or heart attacks. This is the reality of British horse racing."

If you use this as entertainment, the blood of murdered horses is on your hands as well.

Would you bet on a race where human beings fell and broke their legs or necks and had to be shot? At least they would have consented. Horses cannot consent to this life.

Would you be "fine" with it as long as it hadn't happened since 2012, despite horses dying after the race from their injuries since then?

Please don't be dazzled by the so-called glamour of this bloodsport.

Good to see many of your abusive posts have been deleted thattimeofyearagain

Majorgoodwinschickenbeatstrump

I simply don't believe that you have experience with racehorses because you would know what happens to the ones that aren't good enough or are finished.

There is no way that you could deny it. There has been a task force set up to deal with it.

Those horses are cared for better than most humans

From a human perspective!!! Argh!!!!

Soz, cant I'm toooooo " thick" like.

@klondike i really wouldn't waste any more of your time on him/her. Some people are pathologically incapable of being wrong

40 horses home safely. FYI the reason it has caused so many fatalities in recent years is because people campaigned it was "cruel" so they lowered the fence height and inevitably made it faster and infinitely more dangerous.

All horse sports are dangerous but to say it is cruel is wildly inaccurate.

Lovely pic Polly

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/01/horseracing.sport

Nope, YANBU. Some people will attack you on here, but you are doing a good thing by advocating for these animals and I don't know how anyone can fault you for that.

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with a person trying to do a good thing for animals. The OP's intentions are clearly good.

It does not prove any of the OPs claims to annually give 10% of her income to animal charities.
She didn't say that. She said she gives 10% of her income to charities, and also gives separately to animal charities.

She then posted evidence that she gave 10% of her income for 2015 to this organisation; www.givingwhatwecan.org

TicTacToe12 - learn to read before you start being so condescending. Still waiting for the bit where the OP said she gives 10% of her income to animal charities...

Nancy91 when you package your opinions as fact, it annoys people. OP thinks GN is animal abuse. That is factually incorrect. GN and horse racing more generally is categorically not animal abuse.

It's fairly irritating for people who have an understanding of the sport that this gets banded about every year, usually by people who can't tell their arse from their elbow, and ironically by people who are happy to shout animal abuse yet regularly leave their dog/cat alone for 7-10 hours every day.

The OP sounds preachy up her own arse and generally unhinged

Reading my posts, do you think I am too?

Erm nojelly when did I accuse the op of lying ?

OP would have got on better if she posted a balanced argument againt horse racing, rather than 'its grand national day, I think I will have a condescending rant at people'

OP thinks GN is animal abuse. That is factually incorrect.

Haha!!! By whose standards?

Well, at least this thread has been able to point out posters to avoid.

You know, the judgemental, bigoted ones.

(Hint: it's not been the 'lentil weaving vegans' as far as I've seen)

TicTacToe

Thanks, does this mean you're going to stop digging yourself into hole about the charity donation?

Klondike sounds lovely. Happy to stand up for the OP alongside her.

Yanbu
Horses have herd instinct and are trained to obey command, they don't do it for their own enjoyment that's bizarre!

But yes op I'd never bet, I think it's archaic and cruel and an uncouth form of 'entertainment'.

@klondike
The actual words the OP used were..... (and read these slowly, it will help the meaning sink in)

I am vegan.
I give 10% of my income to the most effective charities every year even though I am on a low income.
I give to animal charities throughout the year.

What the OP displayed was:
A pledge to donate money 2 years ago.
A pledge to an unspecified charity. (The organisation she donated to is a pledge management system that could have been sending the money on to club footed retired American footballers for all you know)

It does not prove the OPs claims to annually give 10% of her income to animal charities.

It proves that she gave 10.2% of her income to a charity management group two years ago. That money did not necessarily go to an animal charity.

Facts, they are a bit of a killer and I really think your failure to comprehend them is based in wilful ignorance or a plain lack of grey matter.

Have a lovely evening.

No polly

It's all based on fear. That running out of the blocks, etc etc. With a jockey with a crop. Bollocks.

Horses without fear, behave very differently.

Take a horse there. No tack, no bridle, put them in a block then ask, not tell, ask what them they want to do.

the grand national would be over before it started.