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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

OP posts:
malificent7 · 01/04/2017 10:25

I love the name Tiger Lilly. Hardly horrid is it?

I have known a girl called Saxon, a boy called Fox and Destiny while teaching. Like them all.

Grilledaubergines · 01/04/2017 10:40

I don't know if any unconventional names - we're a sea of Isabel, Joshua, Grace, jack, Freddie etc. And and new ripple of babies called Martha, Mabel, Sebastian etc, Which I think are all lovely names. I love the name Harper. Faye Ripley's daughter is called Parker, and I love that too.

Less keen on made-up names. But horses for courses.

KungFuPandaWorksOut16 · 01/04/2017 10:51

Although I grew up with a family who had 4 girls and 1 boy. The boy was the youngest.

The girls are named after months but the months you wouldn't normally pick for a childs name.
(hint - the names don't go past the first 6 months)

So he has 3 sisters with unusual names , 1 with a "common" name and he had a name think along the lines of frank.

Side note - the girls names are not the months they was born in!

reuset · 01/04/2017 10:52

l love the name Tiger Lilly. Hardly horrid is it?

It is quite horrid actually Grin

reuset · 01/04/2017 10:54

And the spelling of Lily is off

LilQueenie · 01/04/2017 10:55

rubbish kids learn to judge and bully from adults. it starts with us changing our habits not banning kids names.

reuset · 01/04/2017 11:22

I'm currently teaching a child who has the same name as a liquor.

"I like it. It's better than teaching 12 Olivers and 6 Lilys."

How is it better? Adds a bit of interest to your day does it? Wink

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 01/04/2017 11:39

In my job, I've seen a lot of interesting names, ranging from, that's cute to WTF.

Seen a few names that are just initials. Common names spelt weirdly, Phoenix was one of them. Or Beau for a girl which grates at me so badly.

iloveeverykindofcat · 01/04/2017 11:42

My friend taught a Zhane. Pronounced Sian.

CountFosco · 01/04/2017 11:49

Some banned names in other countries:

Saudia Arabia: Linda
Morocco: Sarah
Iceland: Caroline

In Germany you have to be able to tell the sex of the child from their name. In Portugal for a long time they only allowed biblical or Christian names (so e.g. Olaf was banned). Most Scandinavian countries have an 'approved' list that you have to use. If you want to use a foreign name you have to prove that name is a 'real' name.

I'd far rather live somewhere with the more relaxed rules we have, because I think a lot of the rules are based on Xenophobia and are a way of forcing assimilation. I'd far rather life in the UK that allows names from all cultures than a country that allows only names from the dominant culture.

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 11:53

I mean, most names were "weird" at one point, right?

My name (an old family name) is still incredibly uncommon (doesn't even turn up on the naming stats). But I've only ever gotten compliments for it...

All names were "new" at one point, werren't they?

But I think naming your child Willow, Hazel, Pepper, Clover or even Neveah isn't the same as naming a child Eeonutan, Absinth, Cyanide or Phelony.

you may not give your child a name that can cause hindrance in later life I like this rule as well. I am aware that it isn't very clearcut, so certain names are probably a bit of a grey area... But still, seems like a good solution.

reuset · 01/04/2017 12:00

I agree Fosco
What's wrong with Caroline, 'foreign' I suppose?

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 12:02

reuset

I think the letter c isn't a part of their alphabet.
So, Caro, Cora, Cindie etc are probably all forbidden in Iceland.

Zaphodsotherhead · 01/04/2017 12:06

My daughters all have 'unusual' names (think capital city type names). Oddly enough, all our dogs, cats and horses have had very very boring normal type names.

I think I may have got things the wrong way round a bit...though the daughters all say that they liked their names because it meant teachers always knew who they were (very very common surname). My sons had 'normal' names, and said they were grateful about that - it seems girls are allowed names that are a bit more unusual, whilst the boys get teased.

Ericaequites · 01/04/2017 12:26

Harper is a surname used as a first name, as in Harper Lee, the author of To Kill a Mockingbird. Since the book is one of the worst in the current cannon of American literature, why name your child after the author?

Ericaequites · 01/04/2017 12:28

Fosco- Olaf is a Christian name. St. Olaf is one of the patron saints of Norway, so it should be permissible in Portusl.

lollypopcorn · 01/04/2017 12:36

I grew up with a very traditional, plain, sensible name. Think something along the lines of Jane or Ruth.

I hated it. Couldn't understand why, in a world of interesting names, my parents picked something so boring. Felt so jealous of people I met with cool names like Tara, Storm and Zoe.

Anyone can potentially love or hate their name. The bus shelter one is pushing it but otherwise OP, I think YABU.

I changed my name to a nickname form and am so much happier now.

maggiethemagpie · 01/04/2017 12:39

Harper on its own is fine, but Harper Seven sounds a bit like.. half past seven.

I don't think the Beckhams thought that one through.

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 12:47

Harper Twelve? Would be somewhat Christian, I suppose...

OttoChocoLab · 01/04/2017 12:49

Why is it ok to give children biblical names but Lucifer is a no-no?

I like the name Lucifer. And what if I worship the dark Lord? Shouldn't I be allowed the freedom to name my child after him?

Double standards.

SaucyJack · 01/04/2017 12:55

Could have twins called Lucifer and Voldemort?

dentydown · 01/04/2017 12:59

I've heard a boy called shogun. He was white. His mum called for him on the bus.
Mine have boring names. The youngest boy has a shortened name.
My daughter's initials spell out a word (not rude). I let her dad have that one because they are all standard names, and no one has noticed yet. If she does any work that requires her initials when older it will be interesting!

WormwoodScrubbed · 01/04/2017 13:25

Having known/known of several individuals with the name Harper as a surname I always thought of it as one

I've come across that rule in Germany before about being able to tell if it is a M/F from the name, I think that's why Mattie gets refused there

OhGodWhatTheHellNow · 01/04/2017 14:00

The Danish system sounds ideal - you shouldn't be allowed to saddle your children with an obvious impediment.
Do registrars ever query spelling in the UK? My df (70) has a non-standard spelling because his mother couldn't spell, according to him, and I know at least one child in school with a misspelled noun as a name, that I can't believe was intentional (mind you, the mother...)

reuset · 01/04/2017 14:17

"Do registrars ever query spelling in the UK? My df (70) has a non-standard spelling because his mother couldn't spell, according to him"

They ought to but I suspect not.

Just one example. There's always a number of girls named Pheobe registered each year. I often wonder if they, child or parent, go back to correct these spelling mistakes later on.