To report racism to employer?

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I have an acquaintance from school on fb who, in light of the terror attack yesterday, has taken to posting disgusting things about how Muslims aren't human beings, 'I think we all know the solution to the problem', you can't be British as well as being a Muslim, etc etc etc.
She works for the NHS, and to me it's worrying that someone with views like that is caring for vulnerable and unwell people, especially given that at some point in her career I'm sure she will come across Muslim patients. AIBU to report her?

Hi fives Strawberry

bear fwiw nowdays employers will look at FB and other social media before employing someone.
They will be very sensitive to people making that sort of comments and that will always play against that person.
They also do look at people profile when they are in that job (I can remember a story of someone who has posted on FB a very stupid comment about her boss, and got sacked the next day because said boss had read the comment).
When social media profile and posts arecthere for all to see, you need to be very careful about what you are saying. Just like you would in a conversation outside your home. Because it's not a private conversation. And it can spread like a wildfire.

In the same way, people post all sorts of things on MN only to be horrified when they are outed and what they thought was anonymous isn't anymore.

Imo, anyone who puts something on social media, forums etc.. and think its somehow private and they air wherever idea is deluded. If you wouldn't say that in front of your boss, you mother, yu R best friend, then don't say it on the internet.
If you wouldnt say it in front of your boss because you know it would be dangerous for your job, don't say it on the internet.

The figures which claimed attacks on Muslims had gone up massively came from Tell Mama, which has had it's government funding withdrawn because it's so questionable. It's claims were massively out of step with what police forces were reporting and were discredited.

In fact, most of the so called 'revenge attacks' consist of people posting inflammatory comments online. The Met Police's own figures actually showed a fall in hate crimes 2003-2013 (not sure if that continued).

Anyway, if she did say this of course it should be reported. But I do have my doubts because the left wing do this every single time there is an attack. They whip up hysteria about a so called back lash which never appears or is extremely minor in nature with the intent to distract from what has happened and refocus blame on the right wing.

And isn't make it that if things go tits up it's the fault of the person reporting or whatever.
The way an organisation like the NHS can be made aware of that sort of comments is vast and varied.
The only person responsible is the one who wrote that hate speech in the first place

Just delete her. Don't ruin her career because she has some dodgy views.

The police numbers are showing an increase of racist/xenophobic attacks since the referendum ....

I think report. I wouldn't trust her to give a good standard of care to a patient she considers "subhuman"!!

I agree with what you are saying GreenPeppers i have seen some utterly stupid comments on facebook from my collegues at the time about the mental health trust we worked for but i dont actually recall anyone losing there job over it maybe because the trust was so vast it never got back to anyone important.

There was a brief and fairly minor spike GreenPeppers, lasted less than 6 weeks according to the police and was in line with other major national events.

The '57% increase' was largely deliberatelymisreported by the left wing press. It only represented an increase via one online medium (True Vision website) and ultimately largely seemed to be driven by sharing on social media. It was actually released with the caveat 'this should not be interpreted as a 57% increase in national hate crime' by NACPO. But for some reason the Guardian, Mirror and the BBC reported the figures but missed off the caveat. Funny that.

Surprised some posters (early on in the thread) think it makes a difference that she posted them on her own Fb profile makes a difference...As a HR manager, formally in public sector, I can assure you that her employer won't think this at all and will take it very seriously and absolutely would want to know what kind of vile thoughts their employee is spouting in a public arena. And more to the point, those of you that don't want her to lose her job etc, you seriously think someone with such horrific views should be working in a public funded organisation, working with the public at their most vulnerable. I certainly don't.

roarity I think these views are a bit more than dodgy don't you?

Bill

I know nothing about tell mama so cannot comment however I don't think they're the only organisation to have done research on this. I've seen on various news outlets figures and statistics, interviews with police officers and there's been a programme on the BBC a while ago can't remember if it was panaroma or another show.

FWIW I personally know of Muslim women who have been born and bought up here and only recently have been receiving abuse on the streets. I know of one girl (late teens) who was punched in the face with no warning in London and called a terrorist. I know of women whose male family members have been physically assaulted and I also know of women who have children in primary school who have been mocked for being a Muslim by the other children. Unfortunately a lot of these don't make the news or the perpetrators have gotten away but please do not think this doesn't happen and is all a conspiracy theory, it happens a lot now more than ever. Of course there's also cases that have been reported like the pregnant woman who was dragged down the street by her hijab, all the verbal assaults you see happen on trains that passengers record and of course the murders of muslims praying in a US mosque, mosques being burnt etc. Taxi drivers being beaten.

If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend this is not happening then I guess that's your prerogative.

"it is worth bearing in mind that sacking an employee for such views is contrary to UK employment law.

They would only be able to sack her if she demonstrates such views in the work place to the extent of discrimination against non-whites. She is however perfectly entitled to have and air her views in a non work environment. It's free speech.

Not true at all. If her employer has a clear policy saying that publicising racist/similar views on social media is prohibited, then depending on what her role is and the nature of the situation, dismissal could be perfectly fair. Bringing one's employer into disrepute is usually a disciplinary offence and publishing racist views in an open social media post could certainly do that.

roar perhaps you'll answer me, would you be as nonchalant about this if it was your family member considered subhuman? Or you yourself? Or if this was a Muslim saying these things about a Christian would you trust them to perform their job with no prejudice against Christians?

That programme was called 'Behind the Veil', an episode of Inside Out and it was based on the discredited Tell Mama figures. Anecdotal evidence is absolutely no use to anybody without proper evidence to back it up. And the incidents you refer to happened in other countries.

Hysteria over backlashes is massively out of proportion to their actual existence.

People are entitled to think and say what they feel. It's a free country. Unfortunately you can just block them.

The whole Brexit and Trump issues were caused by things like this where people speak there mind and are shot down/reported for being racist......rather than being engaged in debate.

If you report them they will just keep there feelings to themselves, and wait until the next election.

If she has put racist comments on the same page as where she works then yes, report her.
Thats often gross misconduct or a breach of contract.

I think she should be reported, the things she said are vile. I would expect someone working in a caring profession to be more level headed and intelligent than that.

Screenshot, email it to her work/NHS - job done

She could lose her job if you report her.

Yes, that would be a shame

Ahh Bill I see you conveniently chose to glide over the fact I personally know of a number of women who have been victims of abuse in recent years that were absolutely religiously motivated. I wonder if your daughter told you she was a victim of an attack and the attacker was never bought to justice you would tell her not to speak about it as it is just anecdotal evidence. I know these women very well and they have no agenda to lie.
Also the cases I referenced at first were in the UK, the last few were in the US. There have been other cases I haven't mentioned (I'm on holiday so not going google crazy!!) but I suppose you'll find a way to pretend those never happened either

Right time to log off and enjoy my holiday!

I didn't glide over it. I said that anecdotal evidence was useless. I could tell you that Teresa May just flew past my back window on a pig and that wouldn't be indicative of anything except the fact that I had just chosen to say Teresa May had flown past my back window on a pig.

No I wouldn't report, I'd assume that it was a bit of an angry outburst due to recent events and not something she actively posts day in day out, as you did say 'in light of the terror attack' in your OP. I'd imagine if she was giving substandard care to Muslims or non whites it would've been flagged up by now.

I'm not saying it is ok to lash out but emotions are high at the moment and sometimes silly things are said.

sometimes silly things are said
Do you really think that saying people are subhuman because of their religion as just ''silly''?

Some of these responses are shocking