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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think DP should stay home today?

115 replies

newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 09:06

So, I've been ill since Thursday morning - yesterday I woke up in agony, body aching and in pain, very swollen tonsils and headache - I thought either viral or flu. Couldn't, and still can't, stand up on my own. So as not to drop feed this has probably been exacerbated by the fact I have a physically degenerative condition which has flared up. My DP went to work at 8.30 yesterday and by the time my dad had popped in, at 12.30, my three children, youngest 3, had been left to sort themselves out. DP arrived home at 5pm and my parents took kids up they're house. OOH GP came very late and confirmed flu/virus. I've woken up this morning still unable to do anything, I've been in bed since 10 on Friday night - normally I'll carry on through anything but this has really hit me for six. DP has his kids every Sunday - this means that as I can't be on my own I've got to go to my mums all day, he's often not home till after 10pm. I'm not exaggerating, I'm in absolute agony and can't even get to the toilet on my own. I know it sounds selfish but AIBU to think that DP should be staying home with me today? Or should I 'man up' a bit?

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Emphasise · 19/03/2017 12:12

Oh dear, there are clearly a lot of things that need to change. I dont think sacrificing his dc's time with their dad is the first priority though.

RiversrunWoodville · 19/03/2017 12:28

Flowers op, I don't have a degenerative condition but have chronic daily migraines and fibro so flu on top really knocked me (and usually I just carry on) and I really needed DH to step up and help look after our dds so I'm with ourflo I'm more than happy to BU with you too.
I hope you do begin to feel better soon but I totally get how you feel

gamerchick · 19/03/2017 13:20

Maybe this is the final straw OP? He's never going to have your back by the looks of it, nice tidy number there being bankrolled by his lady while he does what he wants.

And get yourself into a bed. There's no need for legs collapsing all over the place if you're lying down. Just rest, the kids are being cared for.

ImFuckingSpartacus · 19/03/2017 13:31

Sure, but an adult having a virus isn't one of those times. She's not in hospital or incapable of getting herself to the toilet or anything like that - she just has a nasty virus

Actually she specifically said that she can't even get to the toilet on her own, and has serious underlying condition as well.
If you're going to have strong opinions about other people you should at least pay attention to the details first.

CookieLady · 19/03/2017 14:14

I'm sat here shaking my head. He's really got it made, hasn't he? Someone to cook, clean for him; look after his kids; enable him returning back to education; and not having to dip into his own pocket.

Op, put your kids first not this guy. Your kids shouldn't have less because your enabling this guy.

newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 15:48

Thanks for all replies - my mum is dropping two to our house so they can all play together. In all honesty DP is lovely, I'm just feeling a bit unloved but we definitely need to have a talk about today. This really hasn't helped my depression.

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RandomMess · 19/03/2017 16:00

Once you are over this virus you need to have some serious discussions about finances and the support you need. It sounds like he has something near shared care with ex so him adjusting maintenance towards what it should be is entirely reasonable and not forever!!!

Thanks goodness you have the support of your parents, but they seem to be stepping up whilst he steps back which isn't on at all Sad

Flowers
TheNaze73 · 19/03/2017 16:05

He needs to grow a backbone.

He's got two women trying to get them to dance to their tune. He needs to think for himself

newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 16:15

Well he's just told me that he'll be dropping his kids back at 6.30 and staying until their mum gets home at around 9.30 so he won't be home till gone 10 - baring in mind she's ALWAYS late home. Thanks a fucking lot 'D' P!!!

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BillSykesDog · 19/03/2017 16:27

Can't he take your kids to hers?

OurFlo · 19/03/2017 16:29

OP - When you're feeling better and not so vulnerable you need to re-read this thread and ask yourself what are you getting out of the relationship? It doesn't appear to be a very two-way street.

Am I understanding that your DP had his biological children at your house today whilst refusing to look after yours? Effectively banishing them from their home to their grandparents? Am I reading that wrong?
Or has he taken them out for the day?

newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 16:36

I'm not allowed in her house, neither are my kids. It's a shithole according to him anyway. He stayed at his ex's house till 3pm then went to ours and my parents dropped two of mine down just before 4. He had stuff to do today to prepare for his week at uni but could have done that if he was at home this evening. I love him so much but I feel so bloody upset and angry right now!

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OurFlo · 19/03/2017 16:48

I'm kind of glad I read that wrong, that would have been seriously out of order. Nevertheless take a good long hard look at your relationship. There was a bit of a compromise to be had here and he has refused it.

I get that you love him but love by itself is not enough. There may be some talking to be done and things to work out and I hope that will do the trick. If it doesn't however, you have enough to deal with with three DC, a debilitating illness and a university course. A cocklodger will only make things harder no matter how much you love him.

RandomMess · 19/03/2017 16:55

WTF did he not just pick them up first thing this morning and come straight back!!!!

Honestly I am fuming on your behalf, he should have picked them up as quickly as possible and be staying with you as late as possible before taking them back home to bed. I would have bathed and put them in pjs at your house if they are young tbh.

In fact it may have been better that they just stayed overnight at yours FFS AngryAngryAngry

This main is really very much take take take from you, give give give to his ex and himself...

newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 17:07

They are 8 and 11. I told him via text that I was upset and he said 'I have my kids one day a week, were you asking me not to have them today?'. He's really angry with me. My sisters dropped me home and is talking to him downstairs. I can't even look at him. I now know where I come in the list of priorities. I feel like my heart has been ripped apart

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newnamechange84 · 19/03/2017 17:10

So you're asking me to not have my kids this weekend to look after you?

These were his exact words...

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OllyBJolly · 19/03/2017 17:12

How sustainable is this situation? You're both full time students, part time jobs, and five kids between you. How does he have the wherewithal to pay "excessive maintenance" on top of that?

OllyBJolly · 19/03/2017 17:14

Just read your last post. Surely you understand his DCs come first - especially if he only sees them one day a week? Surely you would put your kids before him?

FlappinSwazy · 19/03/2017 17:16

So he had your kids from 4pm onwards? After being with his until 3pm?
And he's got his uni work to do.

Why is you sister talking to him?

SookiesSocks · 19/03/2017 17:20

Hes right.
You cannot come before his DC.
Yours dont take a back seat to him do they?

RandomMess · 19/03/2017 17:23

This beggars belief - they are 8 & 11, absolutely no issue with them brining stuff with them and entertaining themselves at your house all day was there!

I wouldn't expect him to cancel seeing them but there is no reason why he couldn't bring them to your house to look after your as well and have your DC there for longer than 2.5 hours.

He does sound like a complete cocklodger as more is revealed.

iLoveCamelCase · 19/03/2017 17:35

Difficult one and emotions tend to run very high where non-resident DCs are concerned but if it is as bad as OP says - agony, can't get to toilet etc - and she did need to have the GP out - I can see why she feels the need to be in her own home and have someone there to look after her. It just won't hurt the DCs to see dad another day this week instead or for less time on this occasion. If only non-resident DCs were not treated as if they have endured some terrible trauma and will be irreparably damaged / think dad doesn't put them first if arrangements are not stuck to to the letter. Non-res parents should ofc stick wherever possible to arrangements to see DCs but sometimes situations DO arise where it may not be possible. If the kids have been made to feel loved and prioritised and cherished by the non-res parents, they will be resilient enough to cope with an alteration to plans once in a while, especially if he rearranges the time. So, OP, if you are as ill as you say, YANBU but if you feasibly COULD manage and just feel a bit sorry for yourself because things are tough for you in general atm, YABU.

RyanStartedTheFire · 19/03/2017 19:02

YABU. If your youngest is 3, you can't have been together long. Of course his children come first. He has a responsibility.

FairytalesAreBullshit · 19/03/2017 20:24

I know it's over and done with now, DP's DC should be going home.

What's your illness? Was wondering if I could help at all.

Unfortunately if your DP had cancelled on his ex, her plans for the day might have been up in the air, plus DC wouldn't get to see their Dad. I agree with others that you should text him for anything you need.

Are you both at Uni?

FairytalesAreBullshit · 19/03/2017 21:10

My first thoughts are, if you are able to work and go to Uni, no matter how long it's for, you're still functioning. Just like you've been functioning today replying to posts on MN. That wouldn't have been on my list of to do things if I was as ill as you say.

You mentioned talking to him today, again if you're really ill you would leave that until you feel better.

He's right, there's no one to look after his children, so he has a responsibility there. If you have the flu, you'd be sleeping as much as possible, dosed up with your usual meds and paracetamol/ibropufen. You could have stayed in bed.

Regardless of what he contributes to his ex, it shows he takes his responsibilities seriously, which not all men would/do.

I'm older than you and have serious health issues, if I have a bad day like today, I've slept from last night till past 8pm in lots of pain. I'm an adult and whilst I'll with underlying issues, or a virus, I've never had or expected care from anyone.

Imagine his post on here if he were to post about his situation. I'm guessing if you're that ill, you'd be getting student finance and an array of benefits. Plus you said your children have SN so you'd get money for that too, which puts you in a better position financially than.

I'm sure there must have been a conversation that went like, 'If you go to Uni now you'll get the loan and bursaries, so we'd be better off as a family!' The only down side is ESA obviously is regarded as income as is the student loan when it comes to housing benefit, so you're not entitled to as much housing benefit as you were.

You have to beat in mind that whilst not all MN will know what your doing, there's some out there that will. Apart from you having to pay more rent, you are generally better off with the student finance coming in, forgetting CTC, WTC, CB, ESA, DLA/PIP, if you get the last 3 from being ill.

Due to the condition, OP will have a nice desk, a chair that costs about a £1000, plus computer and printer etc, for being a disabled student. They'll also pay her internet fees. Pay money for books and other consumables.

So realistically it's unlikely that DP will bring in amazing stuff, unless he's classed as a disabled student. Then I'm guessing he might have a lap top instead of desktop to do his work on.

I've volunteered for various charities, dealt with many families, so I know if at all possible, the student payments, roughly £3000/4000 every term are considered a bonus. For a couple it would be £6000/8000 as you'd both be claiming the ADG for each other which is another £2000 each split in 3.

Ok so he didn't wait on you hand and foot today, do you use a w/c to get around? In which case couldn't it have been carried upstairs to help you?

Men seem to be in a lose/lose situation, damned if they do the right thing, damned if they don't. He has children to sustain, it's not there fault that Dad has been coaxed into going to Uni. If their Mum is as bad as OP says, then they need stability.

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