To think wife is being a little bit silly?

[AmericanCreamie]

I am Irish and DW is English. Our son is 2 days old. She said we can go for a name that's Irish but works well in English too. The one we liked most was Dillon, she then goes "great, but I want it as Dylan"??? That then completely takes away the fact of it being Irish. she isn't getting it. This baby will never be named!!

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true. I'm Swiss (with a Swedish and an Italian parent).

Yes, we chose a name that sounds good in German and Italian and isn't bad in Swedish either. But also English.

And the main priority was English and that I can pronounce it without any issues (th and R's are difficult). It's a name that is known in the UK, won't lead to any spelling issues or anything.

OP, I think you've been given a harsh time on here. I read your post in the lighthearted tone that you say that you meant it in.

I have Irish family and have also never heard of the name "Dillon", except in the US (and I dislike surnames used as first names). Dylan is a lovely name but as you rightly pointed out to your wife, it's very much Welsh!

I love Irish boys' names. My favourite of all the ones suggested is Cillian - any chance you and DW could compromise on that?

Dillon is not an Irish boys name, in any way.It's one of those names that Americans think is Irish and use to establish their heritage.

There are plenty of Dylans in Ireland, but Dillon is a surname.And a hiberno-anglicized Norman Breton surname at that (its a corruption of D Leon).

So you are being rather silly yourself.

Someone upthreead suggested Lorcan. How do you prounounce this one. Friend named her son Lorcan, I have never heard her use it in person, as we see each other rarely.

Woah people! Some of you appear to be getting worked up and transferring your inner rage onto a situation that really doesn't deserve. He has not come across as dismissive, so why are you trying to read that into it.

American I thought you thought it was a little ironic that she she was happy to give your new son an Irish name, with a Welsh spelling. No one else see the irony and why someone may chuckle at the thought? I guess it's a sense of humour thing.

I understand your point.
You possibly phrased it badly, and yes it isn't too clever to call your wife "silly" - you could have used a multitude of different phrases to say how you feel about the fact that she took away the Irishness of the name you chose together by changing the spelling to the Welsh version.

I think you should maybe find an alternative name, one that the spelling either doesn't matter, or that she likes the Irish spelling of instead.
I'm not even going to offer any up, but there will be plenty. Just don't call him Erin.

PS: I personally like Liam

No one else see the irony and why someone may chuckle at the thought? I guess it's a sense of humour thing

There is no irony because its based on a complete misunderstanding of the name in the first place. It's not a sense of humour thing, its a fact thing.

Someone upthreead suggested Lorcan. How do you prounounce this one

It's said exactly as its written. How can you possibly be confused with Lorcan? It's not like like its Caoilfhionn or Bláithnaid!

The two spellings are pronounced differently.

Dylan the Welsh name is pronounced duh-lan in Wales.

Dillon would I'm guessing be pronounced Dill-on.

Pick a completely different name!

Will she always get a say because she pushed him out don't be so ridiculous. You have fell into a trap in this thread.

Maybe it's best to put deciding on the name aside until after your DW and new baby are home and settled into a routine. You have 6 weeks to decide. Meanwhile you can select a list of airship names for her to mull over. Name has got to fit your DS, too.
Congratulations on the birth of DS

Dillon as a first name is not Irish though, as has been pointed out.

I also would never think of Dylan or Dillon as in any way an Irish name. And I say that as someone who has quite a corker.

'Irish but works well in English' and 'Irish but with an Anglicised spelling' are part of a continuum, not separate things. If you mean 'Irish, with an Irish spelling, that also works in English' that is a more specific, small category of names and you need to be crystal clear that that is what you mean.

So it sounds like the problem could be your imprecise definition, not your wife's comprehension skills.

Many Irish spellings do not 'work well in English' at all, because most English people don't know how to read or pronounce them. So, there are popular Anglicised versions for a lot of Irish names.

Dylan is Welsh originally but has become a very popular name amongst English people in England in recent years (and I've read on here must be pronounced Duh-lun not Dill-un to qualify as 'proper Welsh').

Sorry OP, but Dylan is s better name than Dillon. It's stronger and more masculine I think, so I'm with your DW.

Dillon to me is like the Indian name, Dhillon, but you forgot the 'h'.

DD has a friend, Liusaidh (Lucy) who is actually South African. She spends her life spelling her name and tbh it gets on everyone's nerves.

Congrats

I think the OP was just pointing out the irony of his wife agreeing to an Irish name and then saying she wanted to spell it the English/welsh way...no need to clobber the poor man to death over it

What about 'bono'?

Livingtoy

So the answer is no, no one sees the irony.

I don't even get a complete misunderstanding of the name in the first place. The names are the same are they not? Just spelt differently, with an association to two different countries no? I knpw I don't pronounce either name any different.

Either way I was amused.

Better not come to Australia, then, Razz1e - I know at least 3 girls called Dylan here...

I think you're getting a bit of a hard time here, op. I totally understand "the Irish name that works in both countries, only to end up with a Welsh name thing."

However, I do prefer the Dylan spelling and wouldn't want to spell it Dillon, so I understand your wife's point of view too.

Fwiw, I think Patrick is a cool name, and somewhat underused in England.

I am really sorry if I offended anyone.

Me and my wife are honestly very happy, we often 'take the piss' out of each other and it's just our sense of humour.

I don't really know why I posted, it just made me laugh because she doesn't actually get it, as in see how it can be a joke as she doesn't physically see what has been said that's funny. She doesn't understand that Dylan is Welsh. I don't know how to explain it without being jumped on.

Sorry if I offended though.

Something I don't know if it's the case here, but when I gave birth to my children we were living in England and their father was English so they had a totally English national identity. Giving them names that were from my country gave them a link to that side of their heritage that felt important to me even though generally I'm not a particularly patriotic/nationalistic kind of person. My DH vetoed most of my choices anyway...

To my ear, Dylan and Dillon aren't pronounced the same. There's an old debate here - I think YABU to post in AIBU asking if your wife is being silly (she's not) rather than posting in baby names:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/baby_names/1230890-Dylan-or-Dillon

You could call him Logan, that has Irish roots and is a film that was released around the time he was born.