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To ask how you feel about Article 50 being triggered tomorrow

755 replies

Ehsamy · 13/03/2017 11:37

or at some point this month?

And I know there is a EU board tucked away somewhere but I'm interested in everyone's views.

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BeyondThePage · 13/03/2017 14:45

I feel apprehensive, worried more for the unknown new world my kids are growing up in. The lack of certainty, just not knowing I guess.

I'm used to bumbling along in my middle of the road world without an awful lot changing, able to plan for the future based on how things are going now.

That is changing - don't know if it will be better or worse, just know there is likely to be anxiety whilst it all settles down.

SleepFreeZone · 13/03/2017 14:47

I'm thoroughly depressed about the world to be honest. The overpopulation, raping of natural resources, if I think about any of it too much I struggle to sleep at night.

So I've adopted a head in the sand approach that will now include Brexit. I'm anticipating everything to get more expensive and for their to be job losses and tax rises. I'm hoping that down the line things might get more stable but am aware that the world as a whole is destabilising so I'm just hunkering down and riding the whole thing out.

Greenteeth · 13/03/2017 14:48

Sadly it won't be over and done with quickly. It will probably all in all take 2-3 decades Sad Sad.

leddeeburdee · 13/03/2017 14:48

Gutted and furious.

shovetheholly · 13/03/2017 14:50

£1 = 1.15 euros = 1.22 $.

Mentally, I still expect it to be £1 = 1.4 euros = 1.6 $.

Flumpernickel · 13/03/2017 14:50

On the subject of scotland, According to sky news, Nato have said scotland will no longer be a part of Nato if they exit the union. They will have to reapply for membership, which could be a significant problem without a nuclear deterrent.

SherlockPotter · 13/03/2017 14:50

Well it's what some people voted for, no point in making a big deal about it.

Andcake · 13/03/2017 14:50

Like crying sad for my future and my kids. It's going to be tough and were not in a great position now.

Sundance01 · 13/03/2017 14:51

I have no idea whether Brexit will ultimately work out for the best or not and no one will know for 10-20 years if not longer.

We are now entering into negotiation with the EU - we are not going to them and telling them how we want Brexit to work. The negotiations consist of us on one side and entire rest of the EU on the other. In the simplest terms they are going to want what is best for them and whilst we might want what is best for us we are tiny in comparison to all the rest and will not be able to win.

In addition most of the people involved in the EU negotiations in the EU will be people very keen to see the EU continue and not collapse and the best way for them to ensure that is to ensure that the UK does collapse. If ordinary people in the rest of the EU see the UK go hideously wrong then they will all want to remain in the EU.

No matter which party was in power or which PM was in charge we have just handed over our whole future to the EU and the people making the decisions about it have a self interest in making it fail for us.

Maybe in the long run it will all work out but we are in for a very rocky few decades and if Scotland leave as well we could be in serious trouble.

EmeraldScorn · 13/03/2017 14:51

Yippeee.... One step closer to Irish reunification, RIP the "great" empire! ☺

TriJo · 13/03/2017 14:52

Can't help but think "you fucking idiots". Time to break out the popcorn for the three ring shitshow that's about to commence.

UK/RoI dual citizen, London, voted Remain.

housewifebynamenotnature · 13/03/2017 14:54

Ta1kinPeace
I don't know about the areas you mentioned. However, in my local area, you can't get a GP appointment, you can't be seen in A+E in under four hours, the schools are all ridiculously oversubscribed and my friends children (in their early twenties) can't get low paid jobs. Why? What has changed in the last ten years? More countries joining the EU, isn't there a correlation?

Something has to give, surely.

Maddaddam · 13/03/2017 14:55

I feel very sad.
And angry at the wastefulness of it all.

And jealous of the many people I know with access to EU citizenship, which to me is something too precious to lose. I think we'll emigrate back into an EU country in a few years.

BreconBeBuggered · 13/03/2017 14:56

Angry, powerless, despondent and cravenly hoping that it won't be my family paying the heaviest price. I've tried and tried to see what Brexit enthusiasts think we'll get out of it all, as I'd be perfectly happy in a crisis to cling to blind faith for comfort, but I can't see any advantages. At all.

Badders123 · 13/03/2017 14:59

Housewife

It's the same where I live

However my county has very very low (almost negligible) immigration

I think it's far more to do with central govt de funding the NHS and education system for the last decade

But blame immigrants if it confirms your own bias

ShoutOutToMyEx · 13/03/2017 14:59

I feel like I'm in a car teetering on a cliff edge, and someone's taken the hand brake off based on a show of hands.

Humans have silly seasons sometimes. This is one.

Ta1kinPeace · 13/03/2017 15:01

Housewife
you can't get a GP appointment
Because Austerity cuts have reduced the number of GP's
you can't be seen in A+E in under four hours
because austerity cuts have reduced funding of the NHS
the schools are all ridiculously oversubscribed
because local authorities are not allowed to provide school places where they are needed
and my friends children (in their early twenties) can't get low paid jobs.
Or rather they are unwilling to do the jobs that the immigrants ARE willing to do
Why? What has changed in the last ten years? More countries joining the EU, isn't there a correlation?
What has changed is a UK political decision to cut spending

Most of the immigrants are net contributors to the economy, unlike most Brits.

Wando1986 · 13/03/2017 15:01

Excited. Excited that my future children will be more likely to get entry level jobs on a fair wage. Excited that we will have new trade deals. Excited that we may even end up with new freedom of movement with other countries. Excited for what could be a much better future than just settling for the perks of less time in passport control and being able to live in Spain when I'm 80.

shovetheholly · 13/03/2017 15:01

I'm sick of this shitty idea that there's only a certain amount of money to go around, that the country's budget is somehow contained in an iron ring, and that there isn't enough to go around. It's a ton of shite, and frankly it went out with Malthus in the early nineteenth century.

ShoutOutToMyEx · 13/03/2017 15:02

I want to keep Scotland in the UK - but I can't say I blame them if they vote out now.

Agreed. They should get out while they can.

ShoutOutToMyEx · 13/03/2017 15:04

I'm sick of this shitty idea that there's only a certain amount of money to go around, that the country's budget is somehow contained in an iron ring, and that there isn't enough to go around. It's a ton of shite, and frankly it went out with Malthus in the early nineteenth century.

This, completely. I'm staggered by how few people recognise austerity is an ideology.

Greenteeth · 13/03/2017 15:04

Shock EU workers living in the UK blamed for NHS failings and lack of school places, you couldn't make it up. Insults of traitor being bandied about even on this thread. Thank you David Cam.

Ta1kinPeace · 13/03/2017 15:05

holly
I'm sick of this shitty idea that there's only a certain amount of money to go around, that the country's budget is somehow contained in an iron ring, and that there isn't enough to go around
We have a government that will not put up taxes
which is the only way to increase the budget
other than borrow from our grandchildren we've already loaded our children up with the current deficit

BaggypantsCrimplesnitch · 13/03/2017 15:05

Angry.
Depressed.
And desperately worried for our environment, our woodlands and our wildlife. Sad

Ta1kinPeace · 13/03/2017 15:06

wando
which countries are you expecting to get Free Movement to once we lose it with the 27 EU countries ?

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