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Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45.

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Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:21

The Trump thread, continued from here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2867981-I-never-met-someone-from-NM-to-discuss-MN-Honest-Trump-thread-cont?watched=1&msgid=67412870#67412870

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/03/2017 16:43

Snap lweji, had 43 too!

amispartacus · 11/03/2017 16:46

What was the 'nightmare' about the ACA and how has Trumpcare improved it?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/03/2017 16:49

Jake Tapper Retweeted

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Adam Levine‏ @cnnadam
BREAKING: US attorney Preet Bahrara will not submit resignation despite DOJ request- @LauraAJarrett @jaketapper report

BiglyBadgers · 11/03/2017 16:58

I would really recommend this buzzeed story on the women's rights movement in Poland. They have an extreme right wing government in power who are pushing anti-abortion laws to a terrifying extent. It is a stark reminder of what the right wants to do in America, and what could happen in the UK if we keep up this steady shift to the right we seem to be stuck in.

Poland’s Far-Right Is Trying To Take Away Women’s Rights — And They’re Winning
www.buzzfeed.com/jinamoore/polands-far-right-is-trying-to-take-away-womens-rights-and-t?utm_term=.axypM27M1#.jw7Jp21p8

Natsku · 11/03/2017 17:06

That's interesting about Assange Bigly and explains a lot to me as there seemed to be such a big disconnect between what Wikileaks was doing and the character of Assange. My brother went to visit him once in the Embassy, wonder what he thought of him as he really does not like far right people.

Got 38 out of 50, not too bad, a couple were silly mistakes that I realised as soon as I clicked (e.g. clicking Iran instead of Iraq Blush )

SanFranBear · 11/03/2017 17:25

44/50 - making my life great again Grin

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 17:32

CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 2m2 minutes ago
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White House is planning a meeting this coming week with Saudi prince amid terror threats, CBS News has learned cbsn.ws/2ngw17O

BiglyBadgers · 11/03/2017 17:36

i got bored halfway through that quiz. I am officially proof that too much time on the internet destroys your attention span Blush

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 17:58

Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1 2m2 minutes ago
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TX court finds GOP legislature intentionally discriminated in drawing cong. districts, violating Voting Rights Act politi.co/2mdxM4J

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:00

Mark Knoller‏Verified account @markknoller 8m8 minutes ago
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After 35 min motorcade from WH, Pres Trump has arrived at Trump International Golf Club in Potomac Falls, Va (Pool photo @GregClugstonDC)

So... more money being paid into Trump's coffers.

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:05

Bradd Jaffy‏Verified account @BraddJaffy 17m17 minutes ago
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President Trump is at Trump National Golf Club in Potomac Falls, VA, per pool; it's his 9th golf course trip since taking office 7 weeks ago

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:20

Gabriel Sherman‏Verified account @gabrielsherman 23m23 minutes ago
Wow: Trump is now in the position of potentially having to fire Bharara, who is investigating Fox News
www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/politics/bharara-not-resigning/index.html

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:21

Gabriel Sherman‏Verified account @gabrielsherman 12m12 minutes ago
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So Murdoch supports Trump. Trump asks federal prosecutor investigating Murdoch's most valuable asset to resign... (1/2)
And shortlist to replace that prosecutor is former lawyer of the disgraced CEO of Murdoch's most valuable asset. That's America in 2017. 2/2

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:23

Mikel Jollett‏Verified account @Mikel_Jollett 13m13 minutes ago
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Mikel Jollett Retweeted NARAL
So Republicans are "pro-life" right up to birth, at which point they don't care if your baby dies from a lack of health care. Got it.

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:24

The Guardian‏Verified account @guardian 15m15 minutes ago
Farage meets Assange in a shameless illiberal alliance | Nick Cohen trib.al/i4aYERt

cozietoesie · 11/03/2017 18:27

45 probably has this vision that he'll do a deal with Kim Jong Un on the 14th hole, somewhere. Grin

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:30

Newsweek‏Verified account @Newsweek 6m6 minutes ago
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Read a letter from more than 130 foreign policy experts who denounce Trump's revised travel ban bit.ly/2mxyH2t

cozietoesie · 11/03/2017 18:34

6 states are already pursuing suit against it?

AcrossthePond55 · 11/03/2017 18:45

48/50. But one I got wrong was the Melissa McCarthy/Kate McKinnon/Spicy question. So on political (not satire) questions, I did pretty good!

Ami -
What's wrong with the ACA? Nothing.

What has Trumpcare (DonTCare) done to fix it? Nothing.

There were/are things in the ACA that need to be 'tweaked' but the repeal of it won't help any of those. Supposedly things like not having any/much choice of insurers/policies in certain areas and not being able to 'keep your doctor'. Not sure about the plans thing as my son and my cousin had plenty of options. As far as 'keeping your doctor', that's something that is common to all of us. If my doctor stopped taking my insurance then I'd either pay more out of pocket or I'd find a new doctor. It's not uncommon that doctors start and stop taking different insurance plans. It happens. They've also said that insurance plans need to be able to sell across state lines. With the ACA, they already do that. Both my cousin and my son are/were covered by 'multistate plans' in which the company covers people in (IIRC) California and Nevada.

DonTCare will do nothing but cut funding for help with paying premiums (direct subsidy) in exchange for a 'tax rebate' which will help no one pay their premiums. It just makes the tax bill lower. This will force more and more low income families onto Medicaid. But since he has plans to cut that, too, I expect they won't stay there for long.

It will remove regulation which will mean that companies are free to set their own reimbursement rates and premiums. This means that someone with a pre-existing condition may be able to keep their insurance, but that the company can charge them a higher rate.
It also provides a HUGE tax break for CEOs of insurance companies and other high earners.

It removes the 'mandate' for women's health care (i.e. contraception coverage).

In short, to quote our 'fake' president "It's a disaster, folks, a total disaster. I mean it will be a real mess".

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:46

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur Feb 23
.@McFaul Kushner made Trump drop 2-state commitment–Tillerson not consulted, sent to Europe when Kushner family friend Netanyahu visited DC pic.twitter.com/mmmGEmdPsO

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:48

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur Feb 23
Kushner wants to gut the State Department-on Israeli settlements, provocation of Iran and Muslim ban, Kushner's the lead @yangstigram pic.twitter.com/ZfPNhHdx5p

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur Feb 23
There are too many experienced State Dept hands still standing in Kushner's way, so look for more mass firings twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/834807415442796544

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:54

From February, but interesting to note Re Kushner.

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur Feb 3

  1. After repeatedly lying to the public about Iran's own money returned to them, Trump announced sanctions on Iran today, pleasing Netanyahu twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/827421039017627648
  1. Kushner-architected provocation of Iran, which Trump teased during the campaign, is now in full swing twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/824376867629129728
  1. Kushner-directed Iran sanctions have 2 key goals: (a) Boost family friend Netanyahu whose views on settlements align with the Kushners pic.twitter.com/6RkYY8bB29
  1. (b) Sanctions are meant to help Russia by forcing Tehran back into Moscow's orbit while increasing oil prices twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/822986732157046789
  1. Oil prices jumped after Trump announced sanctions on Iran-this helps Putin who deperately needs higher oil prices to stay in power pic.twitter.com/MTBiSbCyW6
  1. Back in 1998 when the Russians were funding his real estate purchases, Trump wasn't so concerned about Iran twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/823442254756859904
  1. Sanctions on Iran to benefit Putin's treasury and boost Netanyahu is proof Trump is a Kremlin-Knesset puppet twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/827621007401771008
  1. With Kushner (funded settlements), Schwarzman (Blackstone has hundreds of millions at stake in Israel) in WH, Netanyahu rolls over Trump pic.twitter.com/72Wv1aor7q
  1. Shocking to no one who has followed this thread 👆👇 and by now knows Kushner is shadow POTUS *@alexwagner* twitter.com/alexwagner/status/832610862808576001
  1. Kushner's family is so tight with Israeli PM Netanyahu, that when Netanyahu visited years ago, he slept in Jared's room @alexwagner pic.twitter.com/sI0I6U0aNM

  2. Kushner, unvetted, no foreign policy experience…continues to sideline man Senate vetted to be US's top diplomat

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 18:55

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 2m2 minutes ago
ACLU will livestream anti-Trump "resistance training" hill.cm/3HWntc8 pic.twitter.com/IO5KqrQfae

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 19:08

Jonathan Alter‏Verified account @jonathanalter 14h14 hours ago
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2. GOP starting to realize that Obamacare Medicaid folks aren't poor blacks they've demonized for so long. They're older white Trump voters.

GingerIvy · 11/03/2017 19:13

betsy hiel‏Verified account @betsy_hiel 42m42 minutes ago
Afghans Who Worked for U.S. Are Told Not to Apply for Visas, Advocates Say nyti.ms/2ma6MmJ