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To think DH should stop seeing this female "friend"

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springycurls · 04/03/2017 15:01

First time posting in AIBU, I really don't think I am but DH won't discuss it properly AT ALL

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy. He is in a very niche job working for the government that needs a lot of specific, high level qualifications (PhD as a minimum)- it can be very demanding and a lot of it he isn't allowed to talk about. (this is relevant!!)

He has this female "friend" who he met many years ago. She is in the same job but is 10 years younger and though he wasn't her manager he mentored her when she first started. They do seem to have a lot in common- DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH. They became friends and stayed in touch but there's always been something "off" about her. I've heard from friends who knew him before he met me that they used to go on "dates" e.g. for dinner or films even though she has a partner. That hasn't happened much recently. She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

Anyway I went through his FB messages and whatsapps and it seems like they message quite frequently- at least once every week. Sometimes she starts it, sometimes he does. Usually it's about some of these weird interests or sounding off about work- again the very specific stuff about their job that us "plebs" wouldn't understand - but I've noticed that she has a pet name for him that no one else uses and he uses a pet name for her. She sometimes ends her messages with xxx. They are due to be away for work in London in a couple of months. It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

She has in the past tagged him on facebook and it's always a bit inappropriate- like they both went to this comic book expo thing and she photographed him there with some models.

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him. He says she's not rude it's just "we think the same way". I think she's a bit snooty as she seems to presume me and DH will have the same interests. We had her round for dinner once and it was awful! She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats) and she made a bloody great fuss of it. She then wanted to talk politics which was a bit controversial as DH and I don't agree and she openly said she was shocked by that and not agreeing would be a "deal breaker" for her and her partner!
He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no. She sent us a card and a small gift anyway which I thought was quite passive aggressive!

I have tried to get him to talk about her but he just tells me to leave it and that there's nothing going on. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right for him to have this sort of relationship. All his other female friends are our age, married and he's friendly with the husbands too. I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

How can I get my DH to see this is a bit weird, and am I being unreasonable to think he should reduce his contact with her and keep it just professional? She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

OP posts:
FancyPantsDelacroixTheFirst · 04/03/2017 17:06

I'm going to join the chorus of UABU. I am wondering whether you have changed things and/or dropped people and/or hobbies to fit in with what your DH wants, or what you think he wants? Just wondering if this is an "I've done all this for you.." situation. Wouldn't make you less unreasonable, but more understandable.

Does he know you hate cats and are putting up with the cat for the lurve of him? Did you tell him that you expected him to step away from his weird hobbies? It all sounds like a massive breeding ground for resentment.

ScarlettFreestone · 04/03/2017 17:09

Elephant Sometimes make female platonic friendships can cross a line.

But there is nothing In any if the OP's posts with any shred of proof that this friendship is inappropriate.

The OP has wrongly gone through all his messages and found nothing except some discussions about work.

The other woman isn't even single.

The worst she has to say is that they have nicknames for each other and that the woman politely sent a thoughtful gift on their marriage.

I'm concerned that the OP wants to change her DH. That's never a good idea. I'm also concerned that her unreasonable behaviour might in the long run cost her her marriage, which would be a terrible shame.

OP I suspect you are feeling a bit bruised by this thread. You have to love and respect the man you married, not the man you want him to be.

AyeAmarok · 04/03/2017 17:10

She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats)

The 🐱 has got your number, OP.

Sleep with one eye open.

Grin
SimonSmithsAmazingDancingBear · 04/03/2017 17:10

I just can't imagine how you could fall in love with, and want to marry, someone you had so many incompatibilities with. And certainly not if they were ones you weren't prepared to tolerate/accept.

Foxysoxy01 · 04/03/2017 17:12

OP

If you carry on the way you are going your marriage will fail and you will be eaten up with resentment, jealousy and become even more unhinged than you sound now.

You cannot message your DH's friend of Facebook telling them to back off! It's an absolutely psychotic move!

It's not up to you to decide who a fully grown man should be friends with. Just because he is your husband doesn't mean you own him.

In the nicest possible way you need help. Please look into some sort of counselling you cannot go through life like this it will eat you up. It can't be much fun to feel the way you do and honestly it isn't normal behaviour.

OnionKnight · 04/03/2017 17:12

Did you marry him out of desperation OP?

Owlzes · 04/03/2017 17:16

high technical level job; the message about only getting on with one person; the difficult dinner (although God help me, I wouldn't wanted to have been there either), she seems to have said what she thought rather than what the Op wanted to hear. And comic books

It's not a technical job - it's a job that requires a phd. Phd =/= autistic.

She apparently gets on well with most of their workmates. The difficult dinner sounds excruciating on every single level and I refuse to believe there's anyone who wouldn't have been struggling with that and a lot of people like comic books. Considerably more like comics than are on the spectrum.

As a note, I have a phd, and like cats and comics. I've also been to ComicCon and have a male best friend I regularly message, although he's gay so the odds of a torrid affair are pretty low. I also am finally marrying my partner after being together for 10 + years. I promise, I was serious about him before we got engaged though.

I'm definitely not autistic, am definitely not trying to steal anyone's husband and would be aghast if one of my colleague's wives sent me a message telling me to 'back off' because I fussed her husband's cat.

This entire set up seems unhinged.

Gabilan · 04/03/2017 17:18

It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

Just to clarify this, OP, seminars aren't compulsory in a "go or lose your job" way but they are highly advisable. For many people they're a way to get to know what research is in the pipeline before it's published, meet and network with peers and generally become better known in their field. I wouldn't be at all suspicious about someone going to one unless there was a lot else going on.

Other than that, I'm sorry but it sounds like you got to your late 30s and thought "oh you'll do". You don't sound as if you like your husband that much and just two years into a relationship that's very worrying.

VanillaSugar · 04/03/2017 17:18

Is your DH a spy? That would explain a lot. If the colleague is also a spy, then they would have code names for each other. And she would be watching you like a hawk to see if they'd both been rumbled.

Owlzes · 04/03/2017 17:20

VanillaSugar - Holy crap! OP has married James Bond and is twitching about Miss Moneypenny.

If that's the case, OP, I take back everything. YANBU! Everyone knows that all Bond's women only last for a movie and then he goes back to bantering with Moneypenny over classified files.

Booshbeesh · 04/03/2017 17:21

The only thing that stood out in that post was that because she isnt married u doubt her relationshop isnt serious? Iv been with partner yrs and yrs. Alot.longer then u at ur husband and wer not married. I think u married because u got worried. U admittedu wud change him if u cud and ur clearly jealous. Jeez. Leave the poor man. The talk.often ONCE a week. Often is daily everyother day even but once a week???? Come on

OneWithTheForce · 04/03/2017 17:24

If he's a spy he'll know you snooped on his phone and that you don't trust him.

MiddleClassProblem · 04/03/2017 17:28

He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy.

It's like an Amazon review

VanillaSugar · 04/03/2017 17:28

But that isn't his spy phone. It's his dummy phone because "he is always breaking it." And then this gives him a good reason to use OP's phone and check up on what she's doing.

Bluntness100 · 04/03/2017 17:30

It's like an Amazon review

Desperina · 04/03/2017 17:31

Unreasonable.

If he was deleting messages... red flag. It sounds like she's being very open and she's just a friend. Don't let it become a problem between you.

ilovesooty · 04/03/2017 17:31

How many stars has she given him I wonder?

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 04/03/2017 17:32

You hate cats?

You are definitely being unreasonable!

Againagain97 · 04/03/2017 17:34

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy

This alone makes you sound like you own him. Things you'd like to change??? Did you think once you'd married him, that you could then set about changing him?

I have many male friends (due to the industry I work in!) one of who I to have a "pet" name for!

I think you are being vvvvvu!

WorraLiberty · 04/03/2017 17:35

Grin @ Amazon review!

OneWithTheForce · 04/03/2017 17:36

So we've concluded he is indeed a spy. What is "seminar" code for?

ilovesooty · 04/03/2017 17:36

Verified purchaser Grin

LackOfAdhesiveDucks · 04/03/2017 17:38

This sounds a lot like me and my closest friend.

We have the same interests including a very time consuming hobby, text daily, see each other almost daily (if I don't see him two days in a row it's very strange) and go on 'dates' for dinner, to the movies etc. Because we are friends and like talking to each other...

We've been close for over 5 years and in that time have both been single but he now has a new girlfriend. I've met her a handful of times now (they've been seeing each other for less than a month) and I really like her. I desperately hope she doesn't feel the same way about me as you do about your Dh's friend. I can assure you that my friendship has never crossed the line into something more but I will be heartbroken if I lose him as a friend. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone who you get a long with that well?! In my case I'm hoping his DP and I can become friends as well.

MadMags · 04/03/2017 17:40

Amazon review! Grin

Chillyegg · 04/03/2017 17:43

Op the only reasonable thing you can do is lock your husband in a giant cage, then slowly beat all of his intetests and opinions out of him. Coercing him into liking yogalaties and making shrines to you. Possibly hire an assassin to knock of the "friend".
Or you could stop this nonsense and got get therapy to deal with your insecurities and jealousy. I also think a good move would bd to actually tryingbto be friends with your dh's friend. It might make things a bit easier for everyone..