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To think DH should stop seeing this female "friend"

516 replies

springycurls · 04/03/2017 15:01

First time posting in AIBU, I really don't think I am but DH won't discuss it properly AT ALL

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy. He is in a very niche job working for the government that needs a lot of specific, high level qualifications (PhD as a minimum)- it can be very demanding and a lot of it he isn't allowed to talk about. (this is relevant!!)

He has this female "friend" who he met many years ago. She is in the same job but is 10 years younger and though he wasn't her manager he mentored her when she first started. They do seem to have a lot in common- DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH. They became friends and stayed in touch but there's always been something "off" about her. I've heard from friends who knew him before he met me that they used to go on "dates" e.g. for dinner or films even though she has a partner. That hasn't happened much recently. She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

Anyway I went through his FB messages and whatsapps and it seems like they message quite frequently- at least once every week. Sometimes she starts it, sometimes he does. Usually it's about some of these weird interests or sounding off about work- again the very specific stuff about their job that us "plebs" wouldn't understand - but I've noticed that she has a pet name for him that no one else uses and he uses a pet name for her. She sometimes ends her messages with xxx. They are due to be away for work in London in a couple of months. It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

She has in the past tagged him on facebook and it's always a bit inappropriate- like they both went to this comic book expo thing and she photographed him there with some models.

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him. He says she's not rude it's just "we think the same way". I think she's a bit snooty as she seems to presume me and DH will have the same interests. We had her round for dinner once and it was awful! She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats) and she made a bloody great fuss of it. She then wanted to talk politics which was a bit controversial as DH and I don't agree and she openly said she was shocked by that and not agreeing would be a "deal breaker" for her and her partner!
He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no. She sent us a card and a small gift anyway which I thought was quite passive aggressive!

I have tried to get him to talk about her but he just tells me to leave it and that there's nothing going on. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right for him to have this sort of relationship. All his other female friends are our age, married and he's friendly with the husbands too. I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

How can I get my DH to see this is a bit weird, and am I being unreasonable to think he should reduce his contact with her and keep it just professional? She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

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ilovesooty · 04/03/2017 16:35

I expect at some point there will be comments about "cool wives" or the suggestion that the OP should post in Relationships where "experienced posters will be able to advise"

I imagine the OP isn't getting the validation she was seeking here.

Seryph · 04/03/2017 16:36

Oh, also OP, YAB COMPLETELY U.

Maybe have a chat with your poor DH about whether he wants to continue in this marriage because if he does you need him to completely change, but aren't willing to make any allowances for him.

And I feel bad for the cat,

Mynestisfullofempty · 04/03/2017 16:38

I imagine the OP isn't getting the validation she was seeking here.

I assume she stopped reading the thread long ago.

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/03/2017 16:39

Yeh cos I'm not experienced ilovesooty. I'm just some random mid 40's numpty. What do I know about relationships Wink. Or any of us for that matter.

KC225 · 04/03/2017 16:39

She is an old friend, it all seems quite harmless. Academics are a funny breed (my DH is one and was finishing his PHD when we met) so I have met lots of this type of women, geeky (comic con), in jokes, quite immature in a worldly sense. My DH had a few of these friends and still does. I am happy for him to have someone who shares his 'intetests' we have a marriage licence not a shared brain. JUST relax, if something was going to happen it would have happened. Trust your DH.

I cannot believe you refused her to come to the wedding. You sound bitter and jealous. Going out for meals or cinema is not going out on a date, it's meeting up with a mate. And why be so dismissive of her relationship - so what if they have been together a long time but not married.

Wando1986 · 04/03/2017 16:39

YABU

Why do some wives think they can control friendships that have been around longer than they have? Seriously, just stop. It sounds like you're not a good fit for your husband. If you think his hobbies etc are a bit strange why are you even with him?

BlondeBecky1983 · 04/03/2017 16:39

It sounds like they're best mates! Don't be jealous!

StressedOutTonight · 04/03/2017 16:40

YABVU. You don't speak respectfully or affectionately of your DH which I find odd & sad. Imagine how you would feel if he described you so negative,y, how would you feel?

Yogurt went through his private messages & found no evidence of a physical or emotional affair. You didn't allow her to come to the wedding & you describe the gift she purchased negatively which says more about you than her.

Have you actually discussed with your husband your concerns? If not why are you unable to communicate with him & would counselling help?

Limitededition7inch · 04/03/2017 16:40

If the friendship, shared interests and the messages sent were between your DH AND a male colleague would you think like this?

No. Of course you wouldn't. And regarding the London trip, so he wants to go to a boring work conference with someone familiar? So what?

And tbh describing her as a young girl is patronising as fuck. She had the good grace to send you a card and present despite your wedding invite snub and you think SHE'S the one who is young?

FWIW I also end all messages with "xxx" as force of habit and I'm not trying to get into anyone's bed.

Oh and finally, not being married is not an indicator of how serious or committed to someone you are; also have you not seen the irony in this when you are accusing the man to whom you are married of possibly being unfaithful?

If you hadn't gathered, YABU.

BlondeBecky1983 · 04/03/2017 16:40

A passive aggressive gift?! More like an act of true friendship!

coldcanary · 04/03/2017 16:42

Wasn't ignoring your reply to me OP, I'm having site issues today!
Ok, I'm about the same age as you I think and I like sci-Fi, some comic books, go to comic cons occasionally, am a raging leftie and have friends of both sexes in a range of ages. DH is also similar age and likes non of those things, (he does have a similar range of friends though) is more of a Tory boy and thinks I'm a raging nerd Grin
He has never once suggested that I drop these 'immature' interests to do more with him and has bought me tickets to conventions in The past because he knows I will appreciate them!
Do you have your own interests? Are you feeling secure enough in yourself to persue hobbies for yourself and form your own friendships? Because you don't sound like it right now. I can't help but think that there's an underlying issue here that you haven't touched on.

DonaldStott · 04/03/2017 16:43

Wow. Yabvvvvvvu. Fuck me. Maybe slightly unhinged. Who's idea was it to get married so quickly?

DistanceCall · 04/03/2017 16:43

He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy.

DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH.

She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no.

I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off.

She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

I had hoped that once we were married these interests would end and his outlet would be doing things with me!

OP, do you listen to yourself? Your husband and this woman - because she is a woman - aren't doing nothing wrong. You sound extremely insecure, possessive, condescending, and dismissive of your husband.

The problem here is you. Not them.

KateDaniels2 · 04/03/2017 16:43

Marrying someone you barely know who already has a full life and social circle that you're coming into as an outsider must be hard.

Hard? But she didnt have to marry him. She wasnt forced into this 'hard' situation.

Sara107 · 04/03/2017 16:44

A wedding gift is not passive aggressive. We were sent some lovely things by people not invited to our wedding, that's just being nice. I presume if they have known each other for such a long time that there is nothing physical between them, or they would surely just have got together?

corythatwas · 04/03/2017 16:46

TheElephantofSurprise Sat 04-Mar-17 16:22:53
He should distance himself from her. TheElephantofSurprise Sat 04-Mar-17 16:22:53
"He should distance himself from her."

So that all his social life can consist of this woman who finds him immature and wants him to give up his interests? Yay, what fun that will be!

EmeraldScorn · 04/03/2017 16:46

OK....

  1. I have quite "cheeky" relationships with my male friends, probably bordering on offensive.

  2. I go on "friend dates" with my male friends, out for food, the cinema etc and most of them are married/in long term relationships.

  3. Some of their other halves are quite stand offish with me, it is not warranted but I refuse to let silly jealousy interfere with friendships that have lasted longer than their relationships.

  4. He lets you use his phone, would he if there was anything incriminating on it? I doubt it.

  5. She's younger and what? There's always going to be someone younger, that's life.

  6. A pet name or a nickname? If she's calling him "bigboy" with a wink emoji then maybe I'd understand your concern but if it's "comicgeek" then there's no harm.

I think you sound quite insecure and maybe you're right to feel that way (I don't know) but don't blame her because in fairness the issue is your husband; If you have worries he should be open to discussing them with you.

I don't believe that anyone should give up a friendship to appease a partner; Surely if he had wanted her he would have been with her instead of utilising the dating circuit on the internet, he met you, he married you and she's a friend!

SympathyPotato · 04/03/2017 16:46

My very good friend and I have nicknames for each other. Not "pet names". It's an in-joke, granted, but not a reflection of any untoward feelings towards each other. We are both happily married and I think both my DH and his partner are okay with that.

ilovesooty · 04/03/2017 16:47

Don't forget the opinion that this person should be "looking up" to the OP's husband.

coldcanary · 04/03/2017 16:49

The only time I ever look up to any of DH's friends is if they're taller than me...

Shakirasma · 04/03/2017 16:51

You sound possessive and controlling OP. The only thing wrong with the entire scenario is your attitude.

Keep it up at your peril, if your DH has any self respect he won't put up with your ridiculous jealousy much longer.

Bubbinsmakesthree · 04/03/2017 16:52

sooty I think part of the reason there isn't more dissent is that there is so little to suggest anything at all dubious about their friendship.

Similar threads where the DH in a long-standing relationship suddenly sparks up a friendship with another woman and one or other of them seems to be pursuing it a little too eagerly would get people's spider-senses tingling and a much more mixed response.

But this sounds like a very long standing friendship where there are clear mutual interests which bind them and no indication that either one is pursuing the other. It couldn't sound much more platonic if they tried.

When the grounds for suspicion include "likes the cat" it's hard to take the it seriously as a potential threat!

ilovesooty · 04/03/2017 16:57

I think you're right there Bubbins

Mynestisfullofempty · 04/03/2017 17:01

I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

You should be glad that you can't message her to tell her to back off. Just imagine how foolish and downright deranged you would look to her and your husband!

Viviennemary · 04/03/2017 17:06

I don't really approve of married people having close friendships with the opposite sex if their partner objects. That is going out for cosy meals together and so on. But they only text once a week. It's not much is it. And as for being jealous of a cat well that is beyond silly. If this friendship bothered you so much then you should have got it sorted out before you got married.

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