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To think DH should stop seeing this female "friend"

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springycurls · 04/03/2017 15:01

First time posting in AIBU, I really don't think I am but DH won't discuss it properly AT ALL

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy. He is in a very niche job working for the government that needs a lot of specific, high level qualifications (PhD as a minimum)- it can be very demanding and a lot of it he isn't allowed to talk about. (this is relevant!!)

He has this female "friend" who he met many years ago. She is in the same job but is 10 years younger and though he wasn't her manager he mentored her when she first started. They do seem to have a lot in common- DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH. They became friends and stayed in touch but there's always been something "off" about her. I've heard from friends who knew him before he met me that they used to go on "dates" e.g. for dinner or films even though she has a partner. That hasn't happened much recently. She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

Anyway I went through his FB messages and whatsapps and it seems like they message quite frequently- at least once every week. Sometimes she starts it, sometimes he does. Usually it's about some of these weird interests or sounding off about work- again the very specific stuff about their job that us "plebs" wouldn't understand - but I've noticed that she has a pet name for him that no one else uses and he uses a pet name for her. She sometimes ends her messages with xxx. They are due to be away for work in London in a couple of months. It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

She has in the past tagged him on facebook and it's always a bit inappropriate- like they both went to this comic book expo thing and she photographed him there with some models.

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him. He says she's not rude it's just "we think the same way". I think she's a bit snooty as she seems to presume me and DH will have the same interests. We had her round for dinner once and it was awful! She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats) and she made a bloody great fuss of it. She then wanted to talk politics which was a bit controversial as DH and I don't agree and she openly said she was shocked by that and not agreeing would be a "deal breaker" for her and her partner!
He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no. She sent us a card and a small gift anyway which I thought was quite passive aggressive!

I have tried to get him to talk about her but he just tells me to leave it and that there's nothing going on. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right for him to have this sort of relationship. All his other female friends are our age, married and he's friendly with the husbands too. I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

How can I get my DH to see this is a bit weird, and am I being unreasonable to think he should reduce his contact with her and keep it just professional? She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

OP posts:
TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 04/03/2017 17:44

Wowsers! YABVVVVVVVVVU

The poor woman has done nothing wrong. Your poor husband has done nothing wrong. They are friends acting as, er, friends!

Nothing you have written is inappropriate, aside from your attitude to it. You refused to have her at your wedding? What, did you think he was going to skip off to the nearest cupboard with her between saying his vows and kissing the bride?

Let them be. Just because she is female it doesn't mean they cannot act like normal friends.

For what it's worth, my best friend is a happily married man and he tends to call me either Boo or Frilly Knicks!

Littlelondoner · 04/03/2017 17:47

Poor guy.

"Werid hobbies" is very patronising. Personally even if it is something I am not interested in I think seeing someone passionate about something with hobbies and interests is endearing. And if they have a friend who shares interest so I don't need to be dragged along even better.

I don't understand why you didn't invite her the wedding? Surely she would have been upset. Sending a present was a nice thing to do. Think you are looking too much into this.

Also you say your husband is immature. So perhaps he is more on wave length of people younger. Although at a certain point age has no meaning as such. In my close friendship group people range from mid 20s to early 40s. So it is not unussual at all.

I think you are jeleous of her. And her age. As you refferance this alot. Is she good looking? Would you appose their friendship as much if she was in her late 40s?

maggiecate · 04/03/2017 17:47

Did you marry him because you can't live without him, or did you marry him because you wanted to be married and he'd do? Because it doesn't sound like the match of the century to be honest. 'Overall I'm happy' is what you'd say about a washing machine that maybe doesn't get stuff quite as dry as you'd like but it's really quiet and cheap to run. Not someone you've been married to six months.

Sunnysky2016 · 04/03/2017 17:48

You sound irrational sorry.

springycurls · 04/03/2017 17:50

Wow this thread has given me a lot of food for thought.

For those asking about his job, it is technical to an extent but he's not a spy (as far as I know!).

They both speak a few languages and the nickname/pet names I had to google but are animal names in one of those languages

In terms of him having been single- yes I suppose she could have made a move but I know that in-work relationships are really frowned upon in their jobs. DH told me about a couple who got together through work and then one of them was told to either resign or be reassigned to a totally different role. I think this more so with there having been a mentor/mentee relationship in the past so I suppose I worry about there being a "forbidden" element to their friendship

I recognise I can be very jealous- I was cheated on twice in the past. I was really putting myself out there trying to meet someone new and was so glad when I met him - for those saying we have no shared interests that's not true. There are lots of things we both like, it's just that this friend likes those things too and the other, weirder things. I suppose I had assumed that he was into stuff like computer games because he was lonely.

He has a few male friends but is mainly close with his family. We see my SIL and her husband a lot. He mainly just talks about films with his male friends who are old friends from university.

And for those concerned about the cat- I am not cruel to it! DH knew I didn't like cats but was willing to accept it anyway. It runs away and hisses at literally everyone except DH, MIL and this friend!

OP posts:
BovarysOvaries · 04/03/2017 17:50

The 🐱 has got your number, OP.

Sleep with one eye open.

...made me howl.

Seriously, I feel so sorry for your DH and this woman. She sounds great.

You're going to lose him if you carry on like this.

Owlzes · 04/03/2017 17:53

OneWithTheForce - Keep an eye on the papers on the day of the 'seminar' and check out which world leaders meet with an unfortunate 'accident' Grin

PeterVincentVampireKiller · 04/03/2017 17:55

Amazon review GrinGrinGrin

kali110 · 04/03/2017 17:55

Op you seriously need to get over this if you want a happy marriage.
If this was a man writing this he'd be called abusive.
Just because you are married does not mean he is not allowed female friends or interests and these interests do not need to include you!

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him.
Seriously Hmm
guess he needs an outlet because of the work stress but I had hoped that once we were married these interests would end and his outlet would be doing things with me!
He is allowed his own interests! Just because you are married does not mean you are one person.
None of this screams anything untoward.
Even the 'dates' sound like two friends hanging out!
Just because she isn't married does not mean she isn't serious with her partner Hmm
You sound really jealous of this relationship. If you don't want to push your dp away then you need to get a grip.
He has some hobbies, how about getting some of your own?
Or something the two of you can do together?( that does not mean he stops his hobby).
It sounds like he has had a good friend for a number of years.
Think if this was your would you like it if your dp wanted you to stop seeing an old friend when there was nothing going on?

OneWithTheForce · 04/03/2017 17:56

Grin owlzes!

OP the more you say the more I am convinced he is a spy. Lots of languages. Animal code nicknames.

kali110 · 04/03/2017 17:56

I suppose I had assumed that he was into stuff like computer games because he was lonely.
Omg Shock

Trifleorbust · 04/03/2017 17:57

She bought you a little wedding gift and a card? That isn't passive aggressive, that's nice.

I will freely admit that I would HATE my DH to have a close, younger female friend with whom he had inappropriate WhatsApp chats, but that is because I am a jealous hag Grin He wouldn't be doing anything wrong or unreasonable.

redfairy · 04/03/2017 17:57

There may well be nothing to worry about but her DH clamming up and dismissing her may be sending her all the signals she needs to believe, rightly or wrongly that he values this woman's friendship above his marriage.
If OP has been cheated on before or maybe has low self esteem she may be on the lookout for any indication of an impending infidelity and speaking from experience, it's very hard to get out of this mindset and start trusting a new partner.

OnionKnight · 04/03/2017 17:58

Yeah you don't sound compatible at all.

Guavaf1sh · 04/03/2017 18:00

YABU - poor poor guy

SimonSmithsAmazingDancingBear · 04/03/2017 18:00

springy seriously, it's clear you are very jealous of this woman and the friendship she has with your husband. There's nothing untoward in anything you have described.

You've made a number of assumptions about him: that he was into computer games because he was lonely; that he'd change his hobbies once he was married; that he'd lose his other outlets and you'd be his outlet. All of that.

And some rather unpleasant judgements about his interests and hobbies. Which is fine, there are hobbies and interests that I make negative judgements about, but I wouldn't marry someone who had them.

There are always going to be things about someone that you don't like. It's your responsibility to either accept them, or end the relationship if they're deal breakers for you. It's not someone else's responsibility to change their interests to please you.

I think the advice to get to know this woman better is probably the best.

I am friends with a married man (also friends with the wife, but better friends with him). I'd be really cross and upset if she tried to scupper that because she was jealous. There's nothing untoward in any of it.

Bluntness100 · 04/03/2017 18:00

Wow this thread has given me a lot of food for thought.

corythatwas · 04/03/2017 18:01

"I suppose I had assumed that he was into stuff like computer games because he was lonely."

You do sound very patronising when you talk about him. How about he is allowed to decide what is a worthwhile hobby?

SimonSmithsAmazingDancingBear · 04/03/2017 18:03

Trifle same here. Except that the OP says there isn't anything inappropriate in the messages...

VanillaSugar · 04/03/2017 18:05

You need to watch the first series of Spooks OP, and then things will become clear. Very clear

coldcanary · 04/03/2017 18:05

you've been burnt twice so in a small way it's understandable that you're edgy about this friend but you have to stop assuming that he's going to do the same thing to you.
I'm not one for suggesting it usually but maybe some counselling might be a good thing here - to help you see things objectively and to help you deal with being cheated on before.

AgathaRaisonDetra · 04/03/2017 18:07

I'm going against the grain here and say OP you ANBU. I'd go apeshit if this was me and my DH. The only thing you can do, though, is to take an interest in his life, in her and suck it up. Sorry.

OneWithTheForce · 04/03/2017 18:07

"I suppose I had assumed that he was into stuff like computer games because he was lonely."

Yeah he was just killing time 'til you came along. Computer games aren't actually his thing.

SimonSmithsAmazingDancingBear · 04/03/2017 18:11

Presumably he was still playing video games when you were dating, going out and engaged.

Why would you think it would change after the wedding?

TaliDiNozzo · 04/03/2017 18:11

Being cheated on in the past can create irrational feelings in future relationships so I can see how you've got to this point OP.

You seem overly fixated on how things should be. You don't like that this friend isn't looking up to your DH which is ridiculous, you don't approve of her social skills or anything about her apparently, which is again ridiculous because it's not your place to judge her. It sounds to me that she's tried with you (coming round for dinner and buying you a wedding present even when you excluded her) but you don't want to know.

Honestly, you're so much in the wrong here it's bizarre you can't see it.